Is my release too long?

[Doegirl]

Here's a pic of me at full draw. The release is a Fletchhunter, and the strap is adjusted to the shortest possible length. I had a Scott Itty-bitty Goose, but can't use that due to string clearance issues.

[royden]

Too me it looks too long; but can you give us a pic from behind showing the angle of your left arm at full draw?

[Doegirl]

royden said:

Too me it looks too long; but can you give us a pic from behind showing the angle of your left arm at full draw?

Yup, here you go. The dog is ensuring I don't to put an arrow through the wall. ;D

[BT]

As an aside.....the draw length...

This is really a hard one to get a read on.
I would request a photo where the pic. taker is shooting directly 90 degree's to your face.
Draw length looks good ....but not good in the top picture and I think that is because of the angle of the picture or the position of your head.
The bottom picture seems to show that you are too short because the elbow is not straight back.
Very hard to tell to be honest.

But.... looking at the release....yes....it looks overly long

[royden]

Bt hit what I was looking for too - the top pic is hard to tell from the side about draw length but appears too long. In the second pic you are too short - but your form changed. See how your elbow is high in the first pic and slightly low in the second? Probably your point of aim changed in elev. but your form didn't change with it would be my guess. Either that or your feet/hip/shoulder alignment changed and affected your form. Your draw length would be right on if your elbow is in a direct line with the arrow (not left or right out of line).

Shortening your release so it fits your hand better will shorten your draw length too much - your shooting a bowtech right? So you would have to get a different module if you shortened the release.

By the way - good dog - I was looking for a dog between you and the wall acting as a target

[BT]

Correct Royden.
Doegirl ..... I seem to remember you saying 25" draw.....correct?
Something doesn't seem right here aside from the release length.
Wish I lived closer because I would come right over to see if what I am seeing is really what I am seeing.
Please elaborate....

[Doegirl]

admin said:

Correct Royden.
Doegirl ..... I seem to remember you saying 25" draw.....correct?
Something doesn't seem right here aside from the release length.
Wish I lived closer because I would come right over to see if what I am seeing is really what I am seeing.
Please elaborate....

I sure will, and with pics....Here's some more. In the photo's above, I have my fist clenched way behind the trigger. I included another frontal shot with my release hand in a relaxed state. I took a few more pics from behind-clearly I'm out of alignment-something I did not realize. Now, if I pull my string arm way the hell up I can get myself more inline with the arrow. I know that's not right.

[BT]

In the above you look like you have pretty good extension but there is still some to go.

On the other hand....This picture suggests otherwise.


I can tell you this.....I can feel the pain looking at the picture below.


I grabbed my reflex and held myself in this position for about a minute and my shoulders are still stinging
You are one tough customer!!

Here is one thing I caught and this is the reason that alot of people have abandoned the bent arm position.



Notice the different position of the bow arm ?
while looking at either the arrow or the lower cam , you can see a distinct diffrence in location...regardless of the shirts position on your arm.
I think I also see why the bow is kicking right on you
It appears to be the position of your palm on the grip.
I would suggest removing the grip and trying a full extension on the bow arm and a mid wrist to high wrist position on the riser.
Now...if you do this you are going to extend the reach of the bow and hence increase the draw length.
Now that I can see better , I would suggest that this release is fine for the reach of your fingers.
A comfortable extension....as long as you dont have to reach for it

One other thing I see that will / can be corrected by the high wrist position.
I see that your shoulder is tucked in on the bow arm and sloped downward which is why your release arm elbow is so elevated.
By bringing the bow arm square to the shoulder you will allow the release arm to drop.
I would suggest doing just this and ignoring the peep until you feel yourself square.
It will feel good
Once squared , you may find that you will be more comfortable with a lower anchor point....perhaps level with the bottom of your jaw
Re-set the peep and adjust the sights to compensate.

Bet you'll shoot more consistently or at the very least you will shoot longer and leave feeling fresher

I would say to try these simple suggestion and then shoot for a few weeks.
It's easy enough to set it right back if you mark and measure before moving things and you may find that this will work well for you

[royden]

Doegirl - Is that a consistent and comfy way to shoot with your foot placement? It looks like you could spread your feet to shoulder width apart and twist your hips a little more to open up your stance - doing that I think you could easily add an 1" of draw length. Your shoulders look hunched together ... all in all you look too short in draw length.

[BT]

royden said:

Doegirl - Is that a consistent and comfy way to shoot with your foot placement? It looks like you could spread your feet to shoulder width apart and twist your hips a little more to open up your stance - doing that I think you could easily add an 1" of draw length. Your shoulders look hunched together ... all in all you look too short.

That could be and I was looking at this too but the anchor location in relation to the face is pretty good.
Another thing that I am aware of is that many women shoot stepped in because of thier chest.
Just the facts that guys tend to overlook

Not saying it's a good habit....just stated facts