Golden Bear bow

[michihunter]

Metal loops are needless and can actually be dangerous. They will cause undue stress on your string and serving area due to the way they are attached. The weight is the least reason to get rid of it. Most are not using metal loops. Most are using string type material that looks like this:



Secondly- The sight is fine for everyday type shooting or messing around, but the last thing you want on your walk to your stand or in transporting your bow is your sight adjustments to move. That looks like a Tru Glo low end model with plastic housing. Where the pins connect is plastic if I'm not mistaking. Adjusting screws will wear down plastic. Doesn't take much imagination to figure what would be more durable in the long run, plastic or metal.

The brass nocks at the peep sight are a big worry to me as well. I just can't imagine what might happen if yuo had your eye there and one just happpened to dislodge itself on firing. Not to mention all the unnecessary weight. As I said, tyhese things are merely suggestions to get you to the best available performance and safety from that bow. I would venture to say you might increase your speed by some 20fps by following them. And that speed in the end will promote a flatter trajectory and better flight from your arrows.

[BT]

Hey there!....you slipped this by me

I would lose the rest for the reason that it will fail due to it's design and you'll likely not see it coming until it does.
If that time is on the shot at an animal.....

I am not a fan of the peep you have due to the fact that it can and will block the opening at some time....it's just a matter of when.
I say this having used them and having seen many people use them.
It's a common complaint and it will happen if it hasn't yet.
If it happens when your at full draw on an animal.......
These peeps also promote rapid string wear

I dont care for the brass that hold the peep in place although whoever did it did do a very nice job
But......
The bottom brass is not needed since the top brass has effectively frozen the peep in place.
peeps dont move down on the shot....they move up.
Trapping the peep only increases the amount of string wear and the peep can still move if you move it by hand or accident.
I would remove both brass and tie in the top and bottom (if you want)

I understand that the metal loops are what is common in your area but they are rarely used in the mass majority and loops in whole are not used in a mass majority.
Loops are fine for some people but having tried them myself....I wouldn't consider one for a few good reasons.
(None of which have to do with tune efficiency)

I would remove the cat whiskers as they are not doing anything for you in consideration of the shock rod your bow is carrying.
(I would check for light contact only when the bow is relaxed....as michi pointed out)

I agree with Michi as to the sight but that is something that will come apart after too much adjustment and will probably serve you well for the time being

[michihunter]

Careful BT, we agreed on something!! ;D ;D

[BT]

[hopesman]

Thanks again guys for the explanations on the issues that were raised. I certainly want to cover off any of the safety issues first. Are there links to instructions for the replacing the brass nocks and the metal loop?
And the peep sight, what would you recommend? Ditto for the rest and the sight. This request should give the two of you something to disagree about! ;D

[BT]

hopesman said:

Are there links to instructions for the replacing the brass nocks and the metal loop?
And the peep sight, what would you recommend? Ditto for the rest and the sight. This request should give the two of you something to disagree about! ;D

You are going to need a pair of nock pliers to safely remove the brass but thats all.
If you want to remove/replace the peep then I would suggest either pressing the bow or being super careful.
The current peep can cut strands when being removed if you are not very careful.
If you are going to replace the peep then what are you looking at replacing it with?

The loop is easy to remove

I would remove the bottom brass from the peep and put that brass right where the top of the loop is/was and shoot the bow without the loop.


I am very tired .... hope this makes sense to you

[hopesman]

I did some checking and it turns out that the sight base, pins and all of the hardware are metal

It's not fancy but I like it so far. Would probably like something different but $$ get in the way!
I need suggestions on the peep sight as I wouldn't have clue as to what I should replace it with.

As far as the arrow rest is concerned, it seems to doing the job for now but what would you suggest as an alternative?

Also, the little rubber string dampener is either just barely touching or not as can be seen here;

I assume that using the release directly on the bow string will wear it out and that is why a loop is used.
Thanks again for the input

[michihunter]

Nothing wrong with that style peep. In fact when I used one, that was the style I used. The new picture of the string dampener is definitely showing a gap and should be fine. The metal based sight has changed my mind and allthough it is old, it should serve you well enough. Shooting off the string may wear out the serving. But that can be replaced easily enough and you should not have to worry about it for a very long time if you have a quality release. As for tying in the peep, a very old but good way of doing that is simply using dental floss with some half hitches(about a doz. will suffice) to secure it from moving. Do approx 6 half hitches and then slide it up/down(depending on what side you are doing) the string so that it tightenes the peep in place and then do the remaining 6. I did it for years with great results. There are other ways including serving in the peep, but that may take some practice and for now, this will get you going immediately. As for the rest, a Whisker Biscuit is basically dummy proof. One of the best hunting rests available and one I use every year. And I have an array of choices at my disposal. If you do go the WB route, you may want to consider using Blazer vanes. They are more sturdy and stand up very well to the Biscuits bristles.

[hopesman]

Thanks for the additional comments. I'm feeling a little better about everything now I will probably stick with the sight for now until I see the reason to change. The floss sounds like a neat idea and that would be worth a try. I know the WB is fool proof and I like everything I see about it but it really would mean re-fletching all of my arrows so i was wondering if there are other alternatives. Keep the ideas comin'

[michihunter]

There are alternatives but they would be more expensive than switching to Blazers. In the end, Blazers are GREAT vanes regardless of what rest you use and therefore the smart move in the end.