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Post by omegabuck on Jan 30, 2010 22:18:43 GMT -5
Okay Spiker ... I got an issue. HHA sight, it's DEAD ON at 20 yards, so much so that it cost me a couple arrows. There was no way to shoot at 30 yards at the range, did that at the old man's house. I got it CLOSE but not perfect, went back to 40 ... same thing. Went back to 50 ... not perfect, but I'm on the target. 60 yards ... well, that's a different story!! Sailed right over top of it 6 straight times!!!!! Each time making an adjustment and not one of them had any effect. I went back to the previously mentioned yardages, nothing changed so all is well, but 60 yards I can't understand why I'm sailing over it. I'm not talking about just behind the target ... No way ... one of the arrows LANDED 20 yards behind the target, I only know that because it was buried up to the fletching. Each adjustment I made, was closer, but in the long run I'm down a total of 4 arrows today. 2 lost (for now atleast) 2 split (at 20 yards at the range) Any suggestions on setting this thing? LOL I'm in need of some assistance. I've only got one arrow left.
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Post by omegabuck on Jan 30, 2010 22:20:27 GMT -5
Oh yeah, just a note ... the guys with the Captain and Admiral were at 64# and shooting 262 FPS at 29" DL
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Post by SPIKER on Jan 30, 2010 22:36:38 GMT -5
Ok, slow down a bit. Now, when you say that you are off at 30, 40, and 50, which direction are you off? As you get further out, your tune will show any faults that are present. So, if at 40 yds, your arrows are hitting left, and they are right on at 20, you have to move your rest to the right so slightly that you might not even see it move. The same applies for the opposite. Try this...shoot an arrow at 3 yards from the target. Adjust the HHA to hit a dead bullseye at 3 yards. Then, without adjusting anything, shoot at 60 yds. You should be dead on. Have you done your walkback tuning, and gotten your vertical, and horizontal tune? Don't skip that part, or your bow will not perform properly, especially at the longer ranges.
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Post by omegabuck on Jan 31, 2010 8:26:28 GMT -5
Windage is dead on ... it's elevation that's off. Elevation is off maybe ... an inch and a half? Not absoultely certain because I had no real way of measuring, but it's not FAR off. I'm still working on figuring out the proper tape to use. Ok, slow down a bit. Now, when you say that you are off at 30, 40, and 50, which direction are you off? As you get further out, your tune will show any faults that are present. So, if at 40 yds, your arrows are hitting left, and they are right on at 20, you have to move your rest to the right so slightly that you might not even see it move. The same applies for the opposite. Try this...shoot an arrow at 3 yards from the target. Adjust the HHA to hit a dead bullseye at 3 yards. Then, without adjusting anything, shoot at 60 yds. You should be dead on. Have you done your walkback tuning, and gotten your vertical, and horizontal tune? Don't skip that part, or your bow will not perform properly, especially at the longer ranges.
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Post by SPIKER on Jan 31, 2010 9:08:40 GMT -5
Oh, the tape. Like I said, get the bow dead on at 3 yds, and it should be dead on at 60yds. I know the tape works like that somehow. I have the directions around here somewhere. I use a Brother P-Touch to individually mark each yardage. Also, did you walkback tune your horizontal, by placing the tape horizontally across the target? You should get the same impact at 10 yds, 15, and 20. One more thing...that bow is easy to time, you just have to make sure that both draw stops touch the same at full draw.
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Post by omegabuck on Jan 31, 2010 9:25:38 GMT -5
Yeah, I did the walkback tuning, horizontal is good ... well as long as there didn't come a 30 MPH gust cross wind. LOL Other than that, all is good. That tape though, let me tell you, that's a pain in my big fat a$$. LOL I know why you mark it yourself now. LOL I could've and probably should've done that myself. The one thing I noticed ... both a blessing and a curse ... gaining about 40 FPS while not adding any draw weight ... the arrow penetrates SO MUCH DEEPER! It's difficult to pull them out of the shotblocker target. I've also got some Victory's I'm just about to order. I'm looking at putting Fusion vanes on them. Keystone is just about out of Blazers.
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Post by SPIKER on Jan 31, 2010 9:45:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I think I will try the Fusions...but, Im really not looking forward to not having Blazers on my arrows. I know a guy, who I trust, that is telling me that the Fusions are faster, even though a little heavier because of their design. I have to prove it one way, or the other, so I guess I'll try them. I'll be sure to post my findings.
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Post by omegabuck on Jan 31, 2010 10:18:21 GMT -5
I'll be doing the same ... though you're the one with the speed rig. LOL I'm not over 300 FPS yet. I bet that will change very soon though.! Kind of curious if you can put helical on them or not?
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Post by SPIKER on Jan 31, 2010 10:31:14 GMT -5
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Post by omegabuck on Jan 31, 2010 12:24:48 GMT -5
Hmm ... I'd have to disagree there (Blazers anyway) ... but only because I've already posted pics using the Jo Jan with maximum helical (designed for 4 and 5" vanes/ feathers) of course I've been fletching them right back at the nock so that might have something to do with it? That doesn't mean that it's the correct helical for the 2" Blazer. LOL It's probably not in fact ... but it was an experiment. That being said, I've been considering going with a smaller helical or possibly straight ... not quite sure yet. I've been seriously looking at that Bohning jib though ... looks very interesting. Oh, one more thing befor I forget ... I shot one of the 27" arrows with Blazers with HIGH Helical from my other bow (8.4 GPI) out of the Vulcan yesterday ... It was still rising at 30 yards. LOL I'm not sure of the weight of it, I forgot ... I'll just have to look it up in my little book I keep for that kind of stuff.
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