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Post by michihunter on Jun 4, 2006 21:34:16 GMT -5
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Post by mahly on Jun 5, 2006 3:04:48 GMT -5
Thanx 1,000,000! 10.6% FOC...not bad...I'm going to give those QAD Tune-a-nocks a try...They SAY they are good for 4fps (doubt it) but they are MUCH smaller and lighter. shouldn't get me OVER 12% I'm betting closer to 11% In any case, at least this should be a bit more accurate than Bowjackson...I can live with 10.5-11% FOC...like to keep it under 12%
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Post by BT on Jun 5, 2006 5:45:02 GMT -5
Ok guy's I think I'll try it. BT, which CX 3D select? there's four diff. spine weights. You dont have to go for the selects as thier only advantage is that they are matched...I just prefer that for the X-tra $10. it generally costs. The 300 are what you are looking for
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Post by vonottoexperience on Jun 5, 2006 16:26:35 GMT -5
I punched the 300CX select into the On Target program and it comes up underspined. I went to the 400 and with a 75/85 head it comes up as weak...400 is as high as it goes, should I get them?
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Post by Greg Krause on Jun 5, 2006 17:22:51 GMT -5
vonotto- How short is the arrow? Can you bring it back to your rest? That should beef up the spine a little bit. I mean can you make it shorter.
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Post by Greg Krause on Jun 5, 2006 17:47:50 GMT -5
Ok guys, I don't want to make this thread any more confusing than it already is but I need advise on arrows. I down loaded "on target" and have been playing around. After the 3D shoot the other day and having conversations with BT about KE vs momentum, I can't for the life of me figure out the advantages of the heavy arrows I'm shooting. My arrows are axis 300's@ 29" with 125 grain head. Overall 488 grains @ 258fps. My bow is Trykon xl, 28.5" draw @ 75#'s. I also have been looking at CX selects. The 400 seems it would work for me. The 2 set ups I am looking at are 28" w/ 125 grain tip and blazer vanes. That should give me 11.99 % FOC and 5.536 gpp. It says 294fps but i have a bunch of stuff on my string, so a bit slower. or 29" w/ 100grain tip and blazer vanes. 9.58% FOC and 5.32 gpp. 298fps My question is which would be better? or should I look for a lighter arrow. What is the point of shooting a fast bow if I am making it so slow? How light would be too light? With the faster arrow my KE is up and my range guestimation won't be quite as critical. Also I can go as short as 27" for arrow without a clearance problem. Thanks guys, I don't mean to hijack this thread, if you want I'll move it. I just thought this might be a help to others as well.
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Post by bloodtrailer on Jun 5, 2006 18:06:38 GMT -5
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Post by vonottoexperience on Jun 5, 2006 18:19:03 GMT -5
vonotto- How short is the arrow? Can you bring it back to your rest? That should beef up the spine a little bit. I mean can you make it shorter. Nope, it's as short as it can be. As too making you fast bow slow, I agree, you diff. could speed it up but there are some disadvantage's ...noisy, more hand shock, tougher overall on the bow, smaller broadhead selection and hole size. Also I see that KE stays but does it stay up down range or does it shed speed and KE faster? The good thing is it has a flatter trajectory with a less margin of error with yardage estimation. I think ill try it, I could always go back
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Post by BT on Jun 5, 2006 18:43:10 GMT -5
I went through the CX site and came up with the 300 shaft and plenty of room to spare Votto We could get 31" out of your bow by shooting center of the riser correct?. If not... then you are going to be @ 32" and yes the 400 may be the shaft but I doubt it has to be the shaft if you want to spend the time tuning it Let me look into it some more....right now I have to go tune a bow.
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Post by BT on Jun 5, 2006 19:15:56 GMT -5
I checked again and although the 400 comes up on the chart as you point out , it is on the break line and by dropping 2# we could make the margin The idea of cutting back past the riser is what you want because you do not want a pivot point on your rest and you are trying to beat weight by staying down in spine. If you go to the 400 series you are going to have to go WAY up in weight to beat back down to 5gpi
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