Aerovane II anatomy

[firenock]

We sell a $0.99 tool so all Jo-Jann and Bitz will work. 1/16" square brass bar.

view the entire description on www.firenock.com/Aerovane.htm

[bowman]

So how soon can I purchace some of these and What colors?

[firenock]

Jan 17, 2009 20:30:16 GMT -5 bowman said:

So how soon can I purchace some of these and What colors?

buy about 25th of this month, And only in white...

Should eventually be 10 colors

[mobowhunter]

Ok it is ultra high tech, it shoots flatter, quieter and retains more energy. Will my deer I just shot at 20 yards be any deader? I guess we have progressed with vein design, standard full length vanes, blazer vanes, quick spin vanes, and still people are shooting Easton aluminum arrows fletched with 3 1/2" plastic vanes and blowing thru deer. I can see the benefit for out west, or Africa or the tundra, but will I notice any difference in the hardwoods of the Midwest where most deer are shot at less than 30 yards. Maybe it like NASCAR, I don't drive 200 mph but what they learn from driving that fast for 500 miles make all of our cars lighter, last longer and more fuel efficent.

[firenock]

Jan 17, 2009 23:32:17 GMT -5 mobowhunter said:

Maybe it like NASCAR, I don't drive 200 mph but what they learn from driving that fast for 500 miles make all of our cars lighter, last longer and more fuel efficent.

For those few who dream and wish they could shot 40 yard out flat on most 3D tournament, your prayer are technically answered. Not all people use their archery equipment to hunt. Some use it to for 3D, target and VERY LONG range shooting.

[mobowhunter]

You know, after I posted my reply I thought of that. I fall into the mind set that everyone that owns a bow hunts with it. I do apologize to you guys that do shoot 3D. I need to realize that there is more to shooting bows than hunting. I will give more thought in the future to my replies.

[BT]

Jan 19, 2009 10:33:29 GMT -5 mobowhunter said:

You know, after I posted my reply I thought of that. I fall into the mind set that everyone that owns a bow hunts with it. I do apologize to you guys that do shoot 3D. I need to realize that there is more to shooting bows than hunting. I will give more thought in the future to my replies.

No need to apoligize...the need for a apology would be an extreme response on this board
What I mean to say is that this board is all about challenging supposed facts in order to offer a rebuttal.
In the end, both parties (as well as those on the sidelines) will have a better understanding of the issue being debated.
No one individual can be wrong to the point of needing to apologies until they come to the point of having to have their heels dug in so solidly that they were reduced to venomous reply in defense of their beliefs or to have failed to listen to that other party while pushing forward with their own assertions.
Failure to think through what is being said while offering a heated response is aggravating for both parties and is the best way to stay uninformed as well as abusive
When it comes to that end and if you are proven wrong....thats the time to offer humility and a hand of peace back to your opponent.
I thought that this mindset (that we like to see here) was worth giving a moment too.
Most everyone appreciates the opportunity to learn as well as teach and from what I have seen of your posts....you have a great desire to do both....which I commend you for

Now...with all that said.

Dorge is spot on as to field and 3-D application and I believe that he has a great breakthrough here.
I do see a practical application for field use as well...even in my area where shot averages are under.30 yards.
At this time, the majority of bow hunters are still shooting 25 flat and dont put alot of time into shots beyond that.
What happens when that deer steps out at 30-35?.....in my experience the shot is still taken.
But....what happens on that 30-35 yard shot for the vast majority?
The big picture is that there are over 1 million bowhunters nation wide and fewer than 10% of those are on the Internet getting real information that will make them better hunters with a bow.
But....most will go to major outlets to get their supplies and thats where they get educated....by the packaging.

If the bowhunter who shoots a 25yds. (flat flight bow) can increase to 30-35 for a few bucks, thats gonna happen.
Now, if Joe average takes that iffy shot, the chances of success increase.
For that reason alone, I see merit in the Aerovane2

JMO

[madoktor1]

At this time, the majority of bow hunters are still shooting 25 flat and dont put alot of time into shots beyond that.
What happens when that deer steps out at 30-35?.....in my experience the shot is still taken.
But....what happens on that 30-35 yard shot for the vast majority?
The big picture is that there are over 1 million bowhunters nation wide and fewer than 10% of those are on the Internet getting real information that will make them better hunters with a bow.
But....most will go to major outlets to get their supplies and thats where they get educated....by the packaging.

If the bowhunter who shoots a 25yds. (flat flight bow) can increase to 30-35 for a few bucks, thats gonna happen.
Now, if Joe average takes that iffy shot, the chances of success increase.
For that reason alone, I see merit in the Aerovane2

Am I to understand that you, like me, practice longer shots for hunting situations? I have a single pin adjustable sight and my top mark is 50 yds. I have a mark for 30, 40, 50 and when I practice, the majority of shots I take are from the 50 yd. spot. My feelings on it are: If I can accurately and consistently hit my mark from there then I will have less problems on the shorter shots. When tuning I use long shots after doing my short distance tuning because problems are magnified beyond a certain distance (usually 30 yds.) and I can fine tune from there. It also helps with my confidence on the more "normal" hunting shots especially with everything that can affect a shot in the woods.

I also know many bowhunters who do not practice beyond "normal" hunting distances and who are unwilling, for whatever reason, to try to extend their range or limits and think I am crazy for shooting the distances that I do.


(BT, there may already be a post about this subject somewhere and if so you can move it to the appropriate place as I am not trying to highjack this thread. Thanks.)

[BT]

Jan 19, 2009 14:06:59 GMT -5 madoktor1 said:

Am I to understand that you, like me, practice longer shots for hunting situations?

Absolutely and as you point out....many (most?) do not.

When tuning I use long shots after doing my short distance tuning because problems are magnified beyond a certain distance (usually 30 yds.) and I can fine tune from there. It also helps with my confidence on the more "normal" hunting shots especially with everything that can affect a shot in the woods.

Amen Brother

I also know many bowhunters who do not practice beyond "normal" hunting distances and who are unwilling, for whatever reason, to try to extend their range or limits and think I am crazy for shooting the distances that I do.

I wonder why they would think that?.
Tedicast (our field ethics adviser) may be totally against shooting beyond the flat flight ability of the majority of bows out there....but I am sure that he would agree that distance shooting is a positive thing as to building great form.

Greg Krause ( Pro Staff) Would argue that you run the risk of allowing wounds to escape by not giving the deer a follow up shot if the opportunity presents itself.

I would contend that both are correct and that the average person will not be able to honor their own word to limit distance if a trophy presents itself 5-10 yards outside of their self imposed range.

For all of the reasons that Tedicast, Skipmaster and myself would give, I see no reason whatsoever not to practice and be prepared to launch beyond your typical range.

[mobowhunter]

Thanks guys for the understanding. I'm sure that as you have shown, there are benefits to the hunter as well as the 3D Shooter. I practice at 40 and 50 yards as well and feel comfortable making good ethical shots at 35 and 40 yards. But even then I know the yardage and know which pin to use. If I had an arrow that shot flat to say 30 yards and was only a few inches low but still in the kill zone at 40 yards, yardage estimation would not be as critical. I know they say there are no dumb questions, but I have also been told to shut up and listen and you might learn something. I am learning something. Thanks.