please help the compound nOOb!!

[~Messiah~]

ok two things, even though i havent made it out yet for some good down home shooting, i have a few questions about the trykon and what is happening.


remeber, all i really used before was a trad bow so bear with me. i am only shooting at 10 yards indoors at home for the time being.


1. when i draw the bow back, and settle in to anchor on my cheek/ear bone, i notice that i can move the string back a bit farther, not much, like very little.

the cams seems to sit in a valleye that is easy to hold, yet if i try to pull farther back, my arms get tired faster. Should i be pulling back as far as i can? or letting it sit in this valley of ease? it like, just sits there and is easy to hold the bow at full draw.


2. i notice that when i shoot , the arrows a$$ end tend to be on the right when they are in the target, now i havent seen it at past 20, should i be worried? i am such a nOOb. is this a rest adjustment? torque on grip? HELP, im drowning, and freaking out, lol

am i making sense? i hope i am cuz i dont know how else to explain it

[BT]

bigbore said:

1. when i draw the bow back, and settle in to anchor on my cheek/ear bone, i notice that i can move the string back a bit farther, not much, like very little.

the cams seems to sit in a valley that is easy to hold, yet if i try to pull farther back, my arms get tired faster. Should i be pulling back as far as i can? or letting it sit in this valley of ease? it like, just sits there and is easy to hold the bow at full draw.

If you are in a valley and you pull back further the feeling of strained weight will occur.

As if you are pulling something past the point of where it should be

Skipmaster will be better able to relate to you what you can expect in this regard

2. i notice that when i shoot , the arrows a$$ end tend to be on the right when they are in the target, now i haven't seen it at past 20, should i be worried?

VERY!!!

In fact...you should just give up and send it to me as it is likely to blow at any moment and it will take a skilled tech to dismantle it safely before it injures someone!

;D ;D ;D

No biggie actually

It more than likely is a tuning issue but to know for sure you would have to be shooting into a non-directional bail which I doubt you are

This would seem on it's face to indicate that the rest should be moved to the right on a right hand bow and out on a left hand bow.

You can try moving it to get it straight for now but the real deal will come when you can get outside to flight test it

Don't worry Dude

[stilllearning]

You are making very good sense.
I am also quite new at this (at it for a year) and what I learned when I asked a similar question is that you are getting nothing more out of the bow when draw back that little bit extra. I understood it to be like hitting the wall so to speak when you pull the bow back that little bit extra. Enjoy the ease of holding the bow in the "valley of ease". When bow tech has time he will explain it better than that but I hope it helps.

Also the arrow hitting and ....................

I see some one has beat me to it and that is great. They seam to have some good advice there. I was only answering so you didn't panic anyway. I know how you feel and I had a great instructor where I live and good friend to help me learn.

Keep the questions coming the folks on here are full of useful information.

[Greg Krause]

First off take a deep breath. You are now the owner of a fine piece of shooting equipment and everything will work out for you. What is the let off on yours? Is it 65% or 80%? I and my friend both have the 80%. I pull into the valley and stop after the cam rolls over. I can pull through the valley and into the wall which is just a very slight amount further. I prefer not to do that, for me my accuracy suffers a little because I tend to push my bow arm out and away at the shot. I pull into the back of the valley without straining against the wall and I shoot with a slight bend in my bow arm. My buddy shoots with his bow arm locked and pulls hard into the wall. That is the way he prefers. I personally think my way is a little easier to hold on target, but it's all preference. Just make sure that whatever you do you do consistantly. If one shot you pull into the wall and the next you don't you won't get consistant groups.
As for the back of your arrow kicking to the side, BT or someone is better equiped to help you out, but you'll need to get out and shoot some distance first I'd imagain. As for torque on the grip, shoot with an open hand. Don't grip the bow or wrap your hand around it. Get a sling and just let the bow sit in your hand. Also don't reach for the bow at the shot. Just pull the bow back against your open hand. If you do this you won't have to worry about torque. If you still think that is the problem I think I may have side plates around here you could have. i took my grips completely off o make sure I wasn't tempted to torque.
The bottom line is to relax and have fun with it. We'll help you get all straightened out and shooting like a pro.

[Greg Krause]

they typed while i was typing. see nothing to worry about. I just wanted to ask, when you pull past the valley, it's only a very little bit right. the wall should be pretty darn solid when you hit it.

[Greg Krause]

One more thing. What is the rest of your set-up? what rest, are you shooting a loop, what arrows, what fletchings,.....you get the idea, list it all. It may give us a better idea on what could be going on.

[BT]

Well if he was nervous to begin with...you have him fit to be tied now Skipper

I figured you'd be a better coach on that model as to the valley and how you would recommend shooting it

I personally don't like a valley at all but a tiny valley would be fine if it had one.

[michihunter]

Another thing that begs answering here is what arrow setup you are using and at what poundage of Draw Weight. The symptoms you are describing could be a spine issue where as the spine is not proper for your specific DW.

[Greg Krause]

I sure don't mean to scare him. It's really all a lot more simple than it looks in writing. There really is only a verry little valley in the Trykon with 80% let off. I don't like big valleys either. If you are looking for my recomendation I'll give it to you and I'll keep it simple. Pull into the valley to where it is comfortable, not hard into the wall. Keep a loose open hand on the grip, follow through and prepare to destroy a lot of arrows if you shoot at the same spot. It's that simple.

[BT]

That is if he is even set correctly to begin with pertaining to the rest

That's why I am waiting till he can get outside.

Got to assure that it isn't a tuning issue first for me