smj
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Post by smj on Mar 12, 2009 21:22:27 GMT -5
Its the crest of a hill. No shot.
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Post by mtshooter on Mar 12, 2009 21:33:16 GMT -5
No Shot!
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royden
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Post by royden on Mar 12, 2009 22:02:20 GMT -5
I agree - No shot - something about the pic just screams quartering away - right leg up in the air... and yet I can't put my finger on why not quartering too - I think it is the head, it doesn't look like the right silohette for a quartering too face.
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jamaltwy
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just move closer to the cursor!!!! I'm in for the kill!!
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Post by jamaltwy on Mar 12, 2009 22:53:13 GMT -5
no shot quartering to you!!
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Post by Buckshot06 on Mar 13, 2009 6:00:22 GMT -5
No shot It wouldn't matter to me if it was high noon. The bear is on the crest of the hill. I wouldn't shoot
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Post by bassnbucks on Mar 14, 2009 5:21:35 GMT -5
C'mon guys lets be honest with each other and not say what we think we are suppose to say like the pro writers do. In a real life hunting situation you would know whether the bear was quartering too or quartering away as you would have seen prior body movements and would have a better assesment of the situation. If the bear is quartering too, absolutely no shot. If that bear is quartering away as it appears to be, then I have a hard time believing that if most of us had put in that much effort to get that close to a big bear that the vast majority of us would not take that shot. I know it is on the slight crest of a hill and we all strive to always do the right thing, but in the moment of truth, most of us would take that shot if he is quartering away. Sorry, but I think we are telling fib.
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Post by BT on Mar 14, 2009 6:16:44 GMT -5
;D I think there is some truth in what you say at the end bassnbucks but the idea is to know what you should do and then do it These shoot/dont shoot scenarios are meant to be viewed as if this is the case and not what if. Many times, (in real life) although you either would or just might have known ....the scenario provided asks that you react to what you see now. To be honest, I have had animals appear many times from seemingly nowhere and I see them... not knowing where they have come from or where they are headed until they move. In this scenario, the guide radioed to alert you to the Bear but what if you were not looking where the bear was when it crested this small ridge.......?. When you turn back, the sun is in your eye's and the bears body language is saying that it has seen something (you) and is deciding whether to turn back or away. I could see this happening...a deer did this to me some years back.
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Post by mtshooter on Mar 14, 2009 6:29:46 GMT -5
I said no shot because of the obvious, sun in my eyes, crest of a hill, not knowing if the bear is quartering to or away. If it were a deer things may be different but I'm not taking a chance with something that can EAT ME!!! A pissed off Bear is nothing to mess with..
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royden
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Post by royden on Mar 14, 2009 7:20:16 GMT -5
I hear you bassnbucks but personally disagree: two reasons... 1) the quality of personel seems to be higher here than the average Joe shooter. 2) I passed on the biggest deer I have ever seen, and may ever see, skylined on a ridge 5 miles from an open road. It is so doubtful that anyone was behind him it is maddening, but something made that deer run up to the edge of the ridge so .... He was BIG - I think as a whitetail he would have taken state record due to mass and tine height. Honestly I didn't mean to pass ... I waited for him to take two steps down over the edge of the ridge so I could shoot and instead he turned and walked out of my life. I hunted that specific deer the next two seasons and have never seen him again.
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Post by bassnbucks on Mar 14, 2009 13:02:08 GMT -5
I agree 100% if that bear just appeared and the picture is the first glimpse of the bear, than absolutely no shot. I was looking at it from a more life like hunting situation, considering that there should in atleast most instances have been more info involved. If you watched the bear come over the hill, obviously he is quartering to you. Likewise, you would know if he was walking away. If it is that you turn around and there he stands just as in the picture I would never attempt the shot. I would not bet money either way if that bear is quartering to or quartering away. In my 20 years of bowhunting I've only not recovered one deer and have had one complete miss, so its not that I take questionable shots. It's just that I thought there was a little, well... I know you shouldn't shoot so that's what I'll say.
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