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Post by BT on Mar 21, 2009 15:09:40 GMT -5
Your still using the MO set up for the hunt?
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Post by Doegirl on Mar 21, 2009 15:24:50 GMT -5
Your still using the MO set up for the hunt? Sorry, but, no. I kinda want to see what my new setup will do on a big buck sized animal  |
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Post by BT on Mar 21, 2009 15:28:45 GMT -5
I think Ed's ears are burning!..... well, I cant say as I would suggest it if you really want to see if what you are going to use is going to work.
However....
If it's not to much of an imposition....could you bring the arrows and try a penetration test when we get one down?.
I would imagine it's a simple matter of readjusting the rest to meet the old set up.
If you dont want to frig with it...I understand but I would like to see what the bottom line would have been.
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Post by Doegirl on Mar 21, 2009 15:36:34 GMT -5
I think Ed's ears are burning!..... well, I cant say as I would suggest it if you really want to see if what you are going to use is going to work. However.... If it's not to much of an imposition....could you bring the arrows and try a penetration test when we get one down?. I would imagine it's a simple matter of readjusting the rest to meet the old set up. If you dont want to frig with it...I understand but I would like to see what the bottom line would have been. Absolutely, I can bring the javelins down with me, that would not be a problem  |
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Post by BT on Mar 21, 2009 15:53:25 GMT -5
Cool!  |
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Post by Doegirl on Mar 21, 2009 17:07:46 GMT -5
Bring those arrows to the hunt next month and I'll try them out on the light bow. If I can use them, I might be able to give you something rather than nothing. Maybe we can make them work for you on the traditional?. I know they are heavy and stiff but I might be able to make them work for your stick bow. Dont give up yet You know, I might just keep the 340's. I do have aspirations to hunt the really big stuff like moose and bison some day. Without the brass inserts and steel adapters the arrows with the Zwickeys would weigh in at about 460grains. That's 8.5gpp for me. Most of my FMJ's are still unassembled. |
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Post by BT on Mar 21, 2009 18:10:00 GMT -5
Bring those arrows to the hunt next month and I'll try them out on the light bow. If I can use them, I might be able to give you something rather than nothing. Maybe we can make them work for you on the traditional?. I know they are heavy and stiff but I might be able to make them work for your stick bow. Dont give up yet You know, I might just keep the 340's. I do have aspirations to hunt the really big stuff like moose and bison some day. Without the brass inserts and steel adapters the arrows with the Zwickeys would weigh in at about 460grains. That's 8.5gpp for me. Most of my FMJ's are still unassembled. I think that this (8 - 8.5) is a good bet...or at least better. Ideally, I would be willing to bet that you would see the maximum results with anything that brought your flat flight down to 20-22 yards. Watching weight and trying to build to it is to hard for me and has generally been unproductive. I have found that subtracting 20% of flat flight potential by adding weight is about where maximum results occur. While I haven't found this necessary for whitetails or Buffalo myself, shooting lighter weight and shorter draw would have me looking at it again  |
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Post by stilllearning on Apr 1, 2009 10:33:47 GMT -5
I am really sorry that I have been slow in getting you any results but I am sure that all I will gain is flat flight range, which I personally like, but no gain on penetration. Not sure of that but that is my thoughts on it. I have nothing to prove it.
2 more feet of snow to melt. I better get at finding some buckets.
I did notice that on Tuesday night when shooting the Cougar the difference in flight of the old arrows Epic XT's and the new Speed Pro's was quite a bit.
I fired two of the Speed Pro's and held center at 20 yards. My hits were 5 to 6 inches high. I then by accident pulled out a XT and sent it down range not noticing that it was the wrong arrow. It hit right on the bullseye.
One of the other shooters was standing there watching me shoot and mentioned that she said it was quite noticeable that the speed pro's were flying very flat and noticeably faster than the old arrows. One of the other shooters who is a bow technician (he works on bows for people) said he can understand why I would want to get that kind of speed out of my bow to get the flat flight but he was VERY scared of wear and tear on the bow. He is worried it might tear it apart. The noise increase when shooting the Speed pro shafts was quite evident. It allowed the noise of the bow to increase a lot.
It will be interesting to get back to the longer distances.
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Post by stilllearning on Apr 1, 2009 10:37:54 GMT -5
Hopesman's grain scale was out of juice from the batteries so I will try and get a weight on the arrows next week for you.
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Post by BT on Apr 1, 2009 15:36:54 GMT -5
I am really sorry that I have been slow in getting you any results but I am sure that all I will gain is flat flight range, which I personally like, but no gain on penetration. Not sure of that but that is my thoughts on it. I have nothing to prove it. 2 more feet of snow to melt. I better get at finding some buckets. I did notice that on Tuesday night when shooting the Cougar the difference in flight of the old arrows Epic XT's and the new Speed Pro's was quite a bit. I fired two of the Speed Pro's and held center at 20 yards. My hits were 5 to 6 inches high. I then by accident pulled out a XT and sent it down range not noticing that it was the wrong arrow. It hit right on the bullseye. One of the other shooters was standing there watching me shoot and mentioned that she said it was quite noticeable that the speed pro's were flying very flat and noticeably faster than the old arrows. One of the other shooters who is a bow technician (he works on bows for people) said he can understand why I would want to get that kind of speed out of my bow to get the flat flight but he was VERY scared of wear and tear on the bow. He is worried it might tear it apart. The noise increase when shooting the Speed pro shafts was quite evident. It allowed the noise of the bow to increase a lot. It will be interesting to get back to the longer distances. Re-sight the bow to hit center at 20 and you will still be there at 27....or should be. The wear and tear is a matter of opinion. You are likely to have replaced the string in the same time frame so thats not really relevant. What you will see is that you have to pay attention to maintenance. You have to keep the string waxed properly....no slop allowed  You have to keep an eye on the area that is impacting the string stopper and cam loops and reserve as needed. The bow will take it....longer than you will own it more than likely. |
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