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Post by Doegirl on Jun 15, 2013 2:45:13 GMT -5
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Post by BT on Jun 15, 2013 5:27:57 GMT -5
If the hunters banded together under one flag and paid the legislature as much as the farmers do, you wouldn't have this happening. It's pay to play and the farmers/Insurance companies are the ones paying.
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Post by shootstraight on Jun 15, 2013 15:21:36 GMT -5
Like Ohio's regs have always been the whole thing must be read or you risk violating it. >>Hunters may harvest only one buck in Ohio, regardless of method of take or location. The statewide bag limit is nine deer, but a hunter cannot exceed a county bag limit. Additional controlled hunting opportunities do not count against the statewide bag limit.<<As far as I know that is an increase of 3 antlerless deer from what it was and after all the screaming about way too many antlerless deer being allowed, a wind'm up and kick as hard as you can in the crotch of all those hunters who are saying stop the madness. They have also changed the antlerless permits from being used before the first day of gun season to the entire season meaning antlerless deer across the state are going to be slaughtered this season worse than they have been, what's left of them. These guys are absolutely no friend of the hunter. Ohio has always gone by counties, just counties in a zone lumped together and if I read it right there is no change among the counties. The change is if you kill 6 does in a county you no longer have to go to a different zone for the other 3, just jump the county line. Bast#$%^! Indiana as far as I know is nuts with regards to the number of deer allowed, they have no state wide limit and over 300 are allowed. Ohio's dnr is pimping out the state of Ohio's deer herd for as long as it can till the Jon's stop shopping. |
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Post by Doegirl on Jun 15, 2013 22:35:06 GMT -5
Shootstraight: being from this state I just assumed everyone knew about the statewide one buck rule here. Well, not everyone's from Ohio. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Post by BT on Jun 16, 2013 9:51:26 GMT -5
Couldn't agree more... and that's a shame  Being a newcomer to this state, I was shocked at what I saw here. Looking at the neighboring state of Michigan, they slay everything and have a poor deer herd to show for it, if you are interested in anything other than yearlings. But that doesn't matter as much IMO because Michigan the state doesn't have the stuff that can build trophy deer regularly in the way Ohio does. With everything going for them, the deer in Ohio are up against poor management and the deer hunters are the only ones who can put a firewall between the DNR and the deer herd IMO. Hunters cannot be forced to shoot anything and that's where it is going to have to play out. If we as a group don't curb ourselves, we cant blame the DNR  |
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Post by CopperHead on Jul 24, 2013 19:02:41 GMT -5
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Post by Doegirl on Jul 25, 2013 7:39:09 GMT -5
Wait...    1 Buck and 324 does. WTH. Where did the biologist get their degree the Institute of Cracker Jack?  My bad, I misread the regs.  Like ShootStraight said, the limit is 9 statewide and only one of those can be a buck. |
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Post by BT on Jul 25, 2013 12:50:44 GMT -5
9 is still a truck load!. Ohio doing their best to curb the whitetail population.
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Post by shootstraight on Jul 27, 2013 15:34:29 GMT -5
9 is still a truck load!. Ohio doing their best to curb the whitetail population. In a way that's what is happening, but the bottom line is politics. I've grown up here, when I was a kid round here the entire zone couldn't have had more than a couple thousand deer, shooting a doe was very restricted, that went on for decades. In the 80's the deer herd began to increase which caused the AG department to start screaming at the DNR. In 1986 the 2 made a deal, the herd would be kept in check at a miserable size of 250,000. Fast forward to sometime around 2006 and the deer herd approaching 750,000. The 2 departments arguing again with the Dnr reaffirming it's commitment to 250,000 deer in the state which totally sucks for the hunter who wants to see any deer during the hunting season. The next season the doe onslaught started with hunters thinking we've finally arrived at being able to breath a little, not so, the herd wasn't large enough to recover year to year from the harvest and we began to go backwards. Hunters (some) have realized the attempt to devastate the herd while raking in on sales until people woke up to the fact that they wouldn't see any deer to harvest. In order to maintain a 4 deer per hunter harvest the state needs a million deer herd just to stay on top of the game. We're now at 9 with less than 600,000. Your right, it's up to hunters to preserve what we've waited a lifetime for. When I was a kid in the 70's seeing a track round here was a big deal. Problem is most hunters think the DNR must think the herd is big enough to allow 9 deer to be taken out of the state. Last year 150,000 doe's were taken out, do the math, how many deer were removed from the herd when compounding the number of deer those 150,000 would produce and then those produce and so on. In just a short time all would've been good for the hunter. The state can easily hold a million deer and hunting would be good. |
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Post by shootstraight on Jul 27, 2013 15:40:54 GMT -5
Wait... 1 Buck and 324 does. WTH. Where did the biologist get their degree the Institute of Cracker Jack? Sounds unreal doesn't it? Believe it or not that is exactly how the state of Indiana does it, no maximum, just whatever each county allows and it adds up to more than 300 deer. It's insane and last I saw they harvested a poultry 135,000 deer state wide. |
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1 Buck and 324 does. WTH. Where did the biologist get their degree the Institute of Cracker Jack? 
