Elk Broadhead choice

[~Messiah~]

ive been grateful for all the testing, but i am still so lost.

I am intrested in using the 100 grain NAP Spitfires, or the rocky mountain turbo for my fall elk hunt.

after seeing the extra test with the spitfires, im still worried the Spitfire will let me down. the turbo has a 1 1/6 inch cut, but worried about flight.

i do not know how to tune broadheads, and with work so busy, i am worried about not getting the broadheads tuned in time. or are the Turbos a screw in and shoot head? they seem cats a$$, and they stood up to abuse.

will these small diameter heads like wasp bullet, and turbos drop a elk with proper shot placement as well as a head with a bigger cut?

im getting so parinoid im tempted to just use my rifles, lol



im looking for a idiot proof head of the mentioned.


Bigbore

[deadeye]

I am heading to CO for elk in Sept. I have narrowed down my broadhead choices to the G5 Montec, Magnus Stinger 4 blade and the Razorcap now made by NAP. All in 125gr.

I am leaning very heavy to the Razorcap based on what I have read here, on other sites and from guys that I know that use them. I have some coming to try out.

I draw 28inches and shoot 60lbs. I am shooting the Carbon Express Terminator Hunter Select that weigh in at 460gr with Blazer vanes.

[BT]

My honest opinion is when you say I might just use the rifle is to ask if you shoot enough to be effective with the bow if you do take it.

Now don't take that the wrong way I mean to ask you to be honest with yourself first

If the answer is no , then my answer to the equipment choice is to take the rifle.....as much as that kills me to say

You will be much happier with the end result than if you wound an elk

THAT BEING SAID......

If you are good with the bow and you are confident take the bow

You will be far happier that you did IMO

Could it be that all the broadhead talk is messing with your head
That I can understand

Now....to the question of what head providing you are a proficient shooter who can hit the mark.

Considering your statements towards your concerns I have to say that IMO the Spitfire is your head

The spitfire will group even when the bow is set for drift which few expandable heads can do and no fixed head can do.

With the size of an elks lungs being similar in size to a small trash can lid you will have no problem stay back off the shoulder while still hitting a sizable portion of open lung area.

If you can shoot , do not hesitate to take your bow because This head will take anything out

It is better than the Turbo IMO in respect to actual cutting area which is going to be a big concern on this large and long ranging animal.

There is my answer....Now you have to answer the first question I posed to you for yourself.

By the way....wait as long as you can into the shootout because I am doing this for you and people like you.

Hopefully within the tests you will find what you are looking for.

OH....one more thing....no such head as a screw on head in a fixed blade unless your bow is in perfect tune.

That being said....if any of the test heads do not group for you at 30 yrds. or less then look to your bow for the solutions and come here for help.

We will walk you through it in a quick and painless manner

[deadeye]

OK BT, I'll ask for your opinion. I am not a fan of expandables. What would your choice of a fixed blade head be for my setup. I do have the time and knowledge for tuning broadheads.

[BT]

For Elk?....For Me?......I can only speak for me in this scenario.


I have to keep in mind that my shot may be out there and possibly way out there

So now it comes down to my equipment.

If I am shooting 8 -11grns. per. pound I would have to say the Slick Trick simply because of the x-tra cutting area and I know that within this weight range I am going to be able to control that head although it may take a little tuning.

If I am staying in the 5 to 7 grns. per pound I am going to go with the Turbo for the control.

All this said I would probably split the difference on total arrow weight an go with 8 grns. per. pound and take both heads attempting to use the tricks at closer ranges and the Turbos for the long work.

I used to hunt like this.... where I would always carry two arrows that were tuned for yardages over 50.

I think in the elk country I would go back to the practice

[elk4me]

Well personally my head of choice is the 100 gr Sonic Pro, I have had a few buddy shoot Elk with the reg Sonic and I use the CX 200 arrows and I am only at 340 gr. I shoot 58#. I just have to say with Elk your gona do alot of walking. I dont think you need that heavey of an arrow for Elk I feel with proper shoot placement you can harvest an Elk with a ligher arrow just as well as a 400+ arrow. Remember with a deer your looking to your lookin to hit a vital of a softball and with an Elk your lookin at a Volleyball or a B Ball.

[~Messiah~]

My honest opinion is when you say I might just use the rifle is to ask if you shoot enough to be effective with the bow if you do take it.

Now don't take that the wrong way I mean to ask you to be honest with yourself first

If the answer is no , then my answer to the equipment choice is to take the rifle.....as much as that kills me to say

LOL



I was joking, we cant use a rifle in bow season silly I am fortunate enough to be able to take a elk in bow season and rifle season. As well as i think 7 deer in total here in alberta, plus moose etc.

With my trad bows im doing real well, really really well. Just my buds talked me into buying a compound for an elk hunt. I get to shoot everyday if i wish at work. the boss lets me bring my bows in and fling arrows, so id have practice with the compound im looking at.

you know....i notice alot, on DVD's, that when expandables are used...... you see alot of arrow hanging out. I saw Jack Brittingham take a frontal shot on a elk with a expandable, i think thats risky.





Think im gonna go take a look around today and see if i can find these heads at the local shop. thx for the input.


BTW, those screw in Magnus Stingers.......do you think they would give good flight out of a longbow, as they did with your compound?




Bigbore

[BT]

bigbore said:

My honest opinion is when you say I might just use the rifle is to ask if you shoot enough to be effective with the bow if you do take it.

I didn't understand you situation .....I thought it was either or with one per. year.
LUCKY DOG !!

You know....i notice alot, on DVD's, that when expandables are used...... you see alot of arrow hanging out. I saw Jack Brittingham take a frontal shot on a elk with a expandable, i think thats risky.

Don't get me started on that son of a B !
Jack is about one of the stupidest ,untalented,hacks I have ever seen on film.
He does things that make Jimmy Huston look like a qualifying member for consideration on the board for P&Y

God I hate that Slob !!!

Don't take ANYTHING that guy does or says to heart

That man is a glittering Jewel of colossal ignorance

BTW, those screw in Magnus Stingers.......do you think they would give good flight out of a longbow, as they did with your compound?

They are a great flying head and I would recommend them if you are a great tracker but not if you are a good tracker

Thats my personal opinion anyway

That being said I put a Buffalo down inside of 50yrds. with a magnus stinger and didn't need the blood trail to find it

[vonottoexperience]

"BTW, those screw in Magnus Stingers.......do you think they would give good flight out of a longbow, as they did with your compound?




Bigbore" I would use the 4 blade Stingers for your Traditional & compound bows. They fly great out of both my setups {compound & recurve} and you will have plenty of penatraion for both bows. If there good enough for Ted there good enough for you! and BT likes them too

[BT]

I have one more thought on this Bigbore.

...........Just opinion you understand

I think you answered the bigger question already in your last reply

#1: You shoot all the time with your traditional bow.
#2: You just started with the compound
#3: You haven't got the time to tune
#4: Your getting nervous with your choice's

1+2+3+4 = USE YOUR STANDARD EQUIPMENT

Now you have opened up your equipment selections to better heads in as much as knowing that YOU can shoot them well

For the Traditional bow I really want to ask you to consider the RazorCaps for their ability to blow through bone with a multi cut surface as well as the Magnus 4 blade.

Both are good choices and I wish I could get into the trad. side of testing now... to give you more options but I cant

I have put down bows in the past that I wanted to use badly and taken bows that I knew better for the simple reason of feeling better prepared in the field.

I would ask you to consider it