Hard to pull!

[oldfarmsblueman]

Asked my neighbor if I could take a few shots at his
backyard buck.He shoots long bow.I had never shot
at one and couldn't Wait.I'm getting sick if my 2" dots.
I shot my 3 arrows and coulden't believe how hard it
was to get them out.I asked another friend and he
said that's normal .The cold doesnt help.He said to get
something to put on my arrows,like dish soap?Any one
have any ideas?

[BT]

Certain liquid soaps can help but whatever one it was I tried a few years ago made it worse!
(imagine that!)
One of the easiest solutions is to shoot a target point that is bigger than the shaft by a couple 32'nds.
Not perfect but aside from that I would suggest some lube like the scorpion release.
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[voodoofire1]

Rain-X and car wax works good too........

[CopperHead]

I picked up one of those rubber arrow pullers. They help me to get a better grip.

[red]

harveycj said:

I picked up one of those rubber arrow pullers. They help me to get a better grip.

Ditto for me...I think they help.

[bowman]

The Scorpion Venom product works great. Tracey wont shoot 3-D without it now. and I also have a rubber arrow puller helps a bunch.
Also what field point are you using? The bullet style don't go in as deep as the pointed style

[vonottoexperience]

Woody's arrow lube..10$, BUT it lasts a long time. I'm on my second yr. and still have a lot left.

[smj]

I'll bet you are shooting carbon arrows??? What happens with carbon arrows, I believe, is this - you shoot the arrow and it smacks the target and starts to slide in to that target. The friction between the wall of the shaft and the foam of the target is intense!!! The foam liquefies, filling in to the pores of the carbon shaft material - essentially gluing one to the other when the arrow stops and the surfaces cool down enough to allow the foam material to re-harden. Hence, it can be impossible to remove the arrow from the target. I had two pals help me once while trying to remove an arrow from an early model layered target. We pulled the guts right out of the target. Some foams are worse than others.

Anyway, this is why wax and some soaps can help so much - they reduce the friction and my guess is that they might help to fill some of the pores of the carbon arrow as well, further helping to relieve the problem. My personal favorite is to go with a bigger tip than the shaft, as suggested above. Cutting a bigger hole with the tip than the shaft size reduces the friction, which reduces the heat, and reduces the pressure around the shaft in general so that it does not glue itself in so bad. Goldtip makes some of these, called EZ-pull points for easy pull. I find they work OK, but not perfect.
www.goldtip.com/products/family.asp?cid=23-0AE251C7-69C8-4E7B-A0F8-50AD463ACE27&rnd=227574652

A good arrow puller helps a bunch, adding some wax or the right soap would probably help even more.

In the event all of the above does not work well enough, you have three choices:
1 - Go back to shooting aluminum arrows. This problem does not exist when shooting alum arrows. Less friction, fewer pores to soak up liquid foam, different coating on the shaft?
2 - Start hitting the weights again, lots of wrist curls!
3 - Only shoot with younger men who are still monster strong and want only to prove it! ;D

PS - yes, the pals who helped me out as stated above were young, strong, and wanted to prove it.

Last, with alum arrows, they still stick a bit, but you can usually give them a twist and they release. Carbons do sometimes, but sometimes don't. I always worry about over twisting one and having it come apart on me. Don't know if it would or not...

One more thing, where the tip and shaft meet have got to be the same size. If the diameter of the tip is larger than the diameter of the shaft where they meet, this will hang up on all sorts of stuff and you will be thinking we sent you on a wild goose chase! You want the tip bigger, but it has to tapper down to the shaft diameter size so that it does not interfere by offering a shoulder to get hung up on during extraction.

[oldfarmsblueman]

smj Your right carbon arrows.I'm 62 in May and don"t
have the strength any more.Not that I would want to pull
those hard arrows out all day.I'm going to 85 gr.stingers
so need to replace my 100 gr.target points.I see what you
mean with the easy pull with the tapered rear on the point.

[azslim]

I have used margarine and olive oil. Just put it on a rag and give the front half a wipe before shooting. I have a friend that just put a tub of margarine out by his practice area, would stick the arrow in it before shooting.