dry firing with arrows?

[~Messiah~]

i was at the range today, and a guy shooting beside me said i should shoot aluminum, he asked what my arrow weight is and what my bows poundage was set at, i said 398 grains with my 100 grain heads, and set at 70 pounds. he told me i may as well juts dryfire my bow with a set up like that, then he left, now im like "WTF?"

anyways, guys have a good one, ill be shooting on my holidays, im off to manitoba to fish for catfish in the red river, or whatever is biting.

i also have shot a crapload out of my bow in the past while, over 300 arrows, believe it or not, and i paper tuned my bow today, the rest was adjusted slightly to the left, and i am not shooting a clen hole with 3 tears from the vanes, i love this thing. Im having a hard time going to the rifle range, cuz i could get out with my bow instead, its a tough choice, lol



Bigbore

[elk4me]

That guy was talkin out his a$$ ;D BB you only need 5grains per pound of bow weight to shoot your bow with a proper arrow to not dry fire it. you are in them limmits so dont pay attention to him!

[tedicast]

398 grain arrow, at 70 pounds...you are fine. You are at 5.56 grains per pound. Some people just hate carbons, and think there is nothing better then a big heavy aluminum arrow.

Good luck fishing! Have a good vacation

[Greg Krause]

That guy is not correct. You don't have a thing to worry about. They reccomend keeping arrow weight at or above 5 grains per pound. That would be 350grains for a 70# bow. I shoot 370 grains at 72#'s so I'm much closer than you. To be honest, I wouldn't reccomend it but i know guys who shoot a lot and are shooting there hoyts at 4gpp. They shoot a few hunderd arrows a week and haven't needed limbs after 2 years. A guy in the local shop has owned his trykon a few months and has dry fired it 4 times. Nothing has happened to it at all. He's an idiot, but it shows the bow is tough.
You are at 5.6gpp. Don't wory about it. Many people are set in their ways and thats ok..........I just don't have to be set in them too.
It's true that the lighter the arrow the more abuse a bow takes, but these bows are built to take it.

[tedicast]

I got a phone call in the middle of making that reply Matt. or I would have beat you too it!!!...lol

[~Messiah~]

thx guys, im just wondering if maybe he just didnt like my Hoyt, he was shooting a high coutnry bow, that was so fast i swore i saw flames. he was veryignorant, almost like his *&^% didnt stink. nice of him to say something like that and then leave with no explanation.




thx again guys. ill catch a whopper for all of yaz, and the wife might take some pics and vids of me shooting, as im bringing the bow with me ill have a week of endlees practice, yay me,

L8R


BB

[BT]

Give him the site address

We would love to set him straight

There is no excuse for not knowing what your talking about when you start talking.

(Of course that comment will come back to haunt me....I'll bet on it )

[smj]

With the materials they use to build bows these days, I sure don't see the need to shoot more than 5gpp draw weight. Of course, if your bow makes a ton of noise, or starts to shoot poorly due to the light arrow weight that's another story! Or if you simply want to do the heavy arrow for penetration reasons... (yet another debate!) Or find the light weight arrows to be less durable than you'd like... Or you want to add mass to the tip for FOC reasons... There are reasons out there to add weight, mostly all personal choice, it is to bad this guy didn't finish his thought. I can kind of see where someone might think we should all be shooting stick bows and cedar... But aluminum arrows???

Then again, I had someone tell me I had to lock the hubs on my dodge or I was simply not in 4wheel drive... I'd like to see someone try to find'em! It just might be fun to watch.

[tautog]

It seems like a toss up at this point. We appear to be at a crossroads in the evolution of archery once again. Threads regarding the viability of bows firing light arrow weights and speed versus the known quantities of KE delivered arrrows which are designed for penetration are popping up more and more. Bows are undergoing massive evolutuionary change, with some going camless, and others moving the cams inboard onto riser mounts. I am also at a watershed. I am seriously debating giving up the compound entirely. May go back to just a long bow. No major tuning issues, and can spend more time practicing and just hanging treestands. I believe we will see 400 fps with reliable arrow weights in the next decade. It almost HAS to happen. When it does watch carefuly....you will see tuning becoming more and more an issue, and broadheads will undergo yet another revolution. Maybe Dr. Barnsdale will concoct yet another superior limb which will accept dry firing as just another release. Risers will be made of yet lighter and somehow stronger stuff---perhaps titanium or other exotic metals. I have long asked the question, "why, if machining can be done to carbon, does there not exist RIFLED arrow shafts which negate the need for vanes/feathers? Sorry if I highjacked this thread, but given the intelligence on this site compared to some other sites, I know everyone here can digest what I'm getting at---the guy giving you the razzing(and that is what it was) was just screwing with ya, so let it slide off. Is it not amazing tho---how one topic bleeds into another and the entire mass of info is interrelated in archery? THIS is why I love the sport so much!

[BT]

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