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Post by BT on Mar 26, 2008 18:44:58 GMT -5
General Gray 1927 Wish I could remember this all but I will tell what I know and hope that someone can fill in the blanks.... This retired general took on the 12 best pistol shooters of a particular U.S. military branch. The pistol team would shoot at a distance of 75 yards while general Gray would shoot at a distance of 80 yards. This was a betThe team shot a total of 420 rounds of ammo at a standard pistol target with a 5" bulls eye and scored a total of 964 points. General Gray was allowed 210 shots with each score on the target being doubled for him. His end total was 1016 points. The pistol team had the best marksman pistols which were design only for target matches while general gray used his longbow I have to believe that General Gray may have proven to be the very best archer that I have ever heard of I cant find anything on google so I am hoping that someone can help
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Post by smj on Mar 26, 2008 22:34:02 GMT -5
Don't know about this guy, but someone was telling me about a woman who used to out shoot the local police with her bow. Not sure as to the where this was, or what type of bow, other than it was without sights.
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Post by BT on Mar 27, 2008 6:53:37 GMT -5
Don't know about this guy, but someone was telling me about a woman who used to out shoot the local police with her bow. Not sure as to the where this was, or what type of bow, other than it was without sights. Thats less impressive to me considering NY cops firing 51 shots and hitting the target maybe 7 times and the LA police emptying 15 full clips without hitting anyone at 15 yards ;D I may be under estimating the number of clips in LA but LA cops are notorious for their poor marksmanship with NYPD in a close second
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Post by snoodslapper on Mar 27, 2008 10:30:18 GMT -5
I'm not sure, but this may be one-in-the-same: www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ctfairfi/pages/fairfieldfotos/fffotos_038.htmIVOR THORD-GRAY – AMAZING SOLDIER OF FORTUNE
Thord-Gray, Ivor (1878-1964) Adventurer and Soldier of Fortune who fought in the Boer War, Zulu War, Philippine-American War, Chinese Revolution, Mexican Revolution, WW I and Russian Revolution, etc. Born in Stockholm, Sweden, as Ivar Thord Hallstromat, at 15 he joined the Merchant Marines and served on three ships before landing in South Africa where he was to stay for the next dozen years. He briefly worked as a prison guard at Robben Island in 1896. The following year he joined the Cape Mounted Riflemen and fought in Bechuanaland in 1897 and Pondoland.. He fought with the British against the Boers in the Boer War (1899-1902). After the war he served in the South African Constabulary (1902-03) and then with the Transvaal Civil Service (1903-06). During this period he saw action as a Captain in the Lydenburg Militia (1904). At the outbreak of the Zulu War in 1906 he joined Royston’s Horse as a Lieutenant and the following year became a Captain in the Nairobi Mounted Police in Kenya where he also was well known as a big game hunter. Several sources have him fighting in the Hereo War in German West Africa (Namibia). When revolts broke out again in the Philippines Thord-Gray went there and joined the American Army as a Captain and part of the Philippine Constabulary (1908-09). From there he joined the French Foreign Legion and briefly fought in Tonkin (now Vietnam) and then briefly fighting with the Italian Army in Tripoli. From there he moved to Malaysia where he owned a plantation but soon quit and briefly fought in the Chinese Revolution under Sun Yat Sen (1912). When the Mexican Revolution broke out he joined Pancho Villa’s Army as a Captain and Commander in Chief of Villa’s Artillery (1913). After leaving Villa he went to fight in the forces of Cazzanza, Obregon and Blanco and was Chief of Staff of the 1st Mexican Army (1914). While fighting he was severely wounded and was given peyote by a Tarahumara Indian to help him recover. With the outbreak of WW I Thord-Gray joined the British Army as a Major and second in command of the 15th Battalion of the Northumberland Fusiliers. Promoted to Lt. Colonel and then Colonel of the 11th Northumberland Fusiliers he then became Commander of the 1/26th Battalion of the Royal Fusiliers (1916). He received several decorations for his action. During much of his time in the British military he was suspected of being a German spy and both M1 and the FBI spent an extensive amount of time trying to prove it. In actuality he was confused with another officer named Gray who was a German spy, but the problem stayed with him. After the end of the war he joined the Canadian Army as a Lt. Colonel and Director of Information when the Allies invaded Russia to try to put down the new Soviet government. The Canadian Expeditionary Force (along with Chekoslovkians and Americas) went to Siberia where they fought the Red Army. In 1919 he was allowed to transfer to the Russian White Army as a Colonel and Commanding Officer of the 1st Siberian Assault Division. During heavy fighting in the Ural area he was seriously wounded at Omsk on August 14, 1919. He was soon promoted to Major General and named High Representative of the White Russian Government under Admiral Koltschak to the Allied Expeditionary Corps stationed in Vladivostok. Thord-Gray was wounded and captured by the Red Army when it took Vladivostok but was quickly turned over to American troops (1920). While recovering from his wounds he went to New York and then to England, on his way to Sweden. When he reached Britain he was not allowed to go ashore because of the old story of being a spy, still being believed by a member of the FBI. This was finally cleared up and on March 21, 1921 he was reinstituted in the British Army and returned to his rank of Lt. Colonel. While in Russia, as a Major General with the White’s he was given receipts for gold by White Leader Admiral Koltschak who was executed by the Soviets several days after his capture at Vladivostok.. Thord-Gray is reported to have kept these gold receipts for himself and used this money to establish a bank in New York but got out of banking before the stock market crash. In 1927 he set a double World’s Record in Archery. In January 1928 he went to Venezuela where a revolution had broken out. He was given the rank of Lt. General but gave up the rank when the revolution broke down in early 1929. In 1934 he became an American citizen. He moved to Florida and in 1935 Governor Sholz appointed him a Major General in the Florida Militia and Chief of Staff to the Governor. Some sources have him advising the American Army in WW II. He died in Florida in 1964. In 1914 he wrote the book Gringo Rebel about his experiences in Mexico and also wrote a manual on trench fighting. I have yet to read of an individual who fought in so many diverse armies.
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Post by BT on Mar 27, 2008 13:27:06 GMT -5
I will have to read this closely but thanks so much for following up. I have to run at this moment....darn it!
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Post by huntbunny6 on Mar 27, 2008 14:15:01 GMT -5
I love the Paul Harvey stories. I dont think there has ever been one I didnt like
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Post by BT on Mar 27, 2008 19:01:03 GMT -5
geez snoodslapper...I didn't catch enough of the particulars to know if this was the guy but it sure sounds like it could be
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Post by snoodslapper on Mar 27, 2008 21:02:56 GMT -5
Pretty interesting bloke I ran across some years ago somehow and just remembered the name and the archery reference. I can remember odd, obscure junk like this somehow on one hand, but can't remember my own blood type to save my life on the other. Sad really... ;D
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