Over shooting yourself - Bad thing?

[BT]

Not that most people dont know this but I thought I would bring it up today since David and I both went through the process of over shooting ourselves

I am wondering now if it is really as bad of a thing as we believed it to be
When we were blowing it , it was easy to blame anything and everything but when we stopped to analyze the shooting problems we both found ways to better our shooting.

I think that in a weakened state , we found things that were wrong all along but were not showing up due to our ability to overcome.
One thing for me was that as I tire I overdraw the bow.
(recurve)
Although this sounds ridiculous it actually is easier for me to overdraw and anchor behind my cheek as opposed to around it as I normally do.
This causes erratic impacts due to the fact that my fingers are hanging out in the air as opposed to being laid into the side of my face.
I didn't know that about myself although it has happened in the past.
It's something that came and went.

David was opening up on the shot or torquing the bow on the release for the same reasons.
The fix was simple by relocating the hand and finger position on the riser as opposed to where they normally are.

The results were dramatic when we both found ways to over come these weak spots.
Finding them was the problem
With the weather turning and sun running out we decided to film ourselves shooting.
What we saw revealed what needed to be fixed and made it alot easier to fix

I cant say that this will work for everyone but it has worked great for us today.
We went out (exhausted) and aced our course from angles and distances we have never shot prior.
(to insure that we were not fooling ourselves)

I would suggest trying it sometime....shoot into exhaustion and then film yourself as you start falling apart.
It will show alot of area's that you can improve on so that you can shoot through it.

That's my Revelation today

[Scottyluck]

It's our minds that breaks down causing our form to fail.
Once you loose concentration and move away from your "Machine-Like" motions you're in trouble.
As you physically tire it becomes a lot harder for your mind to control your body simply because your body can't do what your mind wants it to.
You may be able to make some shots but your consistency will still be off.

Kris, you guys had the ride home to relax a bit. I'm sure that helped.

[SPIKER]

That happens to me all the time. You've seen it first hand.

When I first start to wilt, the telltale sign is that I torque, causing POI to the left of center, then as I progressively get worse, I start hitting high, (and left). This was my downfall the other night shooting with skip's league, I would have had a really good score except for a damn 0/5 on the little Partridge. We had been shooting for a good two hours straight before we went inside to shoot spots. I can compensate just so much before I fall apart completely. The only way I could see overcoming the amount of time it takes to tire, is to shoot a lower weight. Otherwise, when I hit the wall, only rest will cure it.

[BT]

Agreed with the mental but....

David and I were still throwing shots once we got home and I was cutting X's on the target butt once we got off the course.
(of course , thats after I found part of my issue at that time )

It was the same thing continuing on from the shoot but that's what gave me the idea to set up the tripod and video ourselves.
I was telling David that neither one of us had ever shot that bad and there had to be a reason although I couldn't put my finger on it

We weren't any fresher after another 30 shots but we did see what we were doing and corrected for it.
Once we did everything came back on

We will see......if it follows through for tomorrow and the next day then it is a good discovery and if not then we were only putting a band aid on a problem.
(That could be dangerous but I figure it's worth a try)

With 4 days to go before the hunt I am looking at everything that will add improvement

[Scottyluck]

4 days before the hunt, if it's not automatic by now it's not gonna be.

[BT]

Thing is that it was.
Just getting it back and improving on it.
I really believe that this exercise in over doing it may have pointed out some underlying rough spots.

[BT]

Answered my own question.

David was shooting very well today and I was also ....as soon as I went back to the Mamba

After three weeks I built considerable strength with the heavier Browning but it was beating me up as I tried to shoot it as much as the lighter Matin

Today when using the Martin I was steadier than I have ever been and was hitting my marks wherever I wanted to from whatever distance I wanted.

David's new grip provided him alot of stability and now there are no problems left to resolve

All of this came from over indulgence which taught us new ways of overcoming the faults that we both had in equipment and or form.

[Greg Krause]

I was falling apart a little yesterday after shooting a lot. I finally forced myself to shoot well and then quit. i picked up the longbow today, walked out on my upper porch and put 2 out of 2 BH tipped arrows in the ten ring on my 3D deer at 30yds. I took 2 more shots from 20yds on flkat gound and they were on as well. I quit for the day.

[royden]

I like that style of shooting skipmaster. Shoot one shot and quit for the day. You only get one shot in the field make the shot at the foam count just as much.

[SPIKER]

That was yesterday for me, but today was a nightmare! Tomorrow I hope for a 5 or 6 shot day.