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Post by bowhunter44 on May 3, 2008 11:28:17 GMT -5
I know, that is a trick question! Anyway, I deliberated over arrows quite a bit. I chased spine consistency data all over the planet (horray for Carbon Express and Carbon Tech as they are the ONLY arrow manufacturers that provided any data). I finally chose the Carbon Tech Whitetail XP (.400 spine). I fletched up three arrows and had a chance to shoot them this morning. Here are two pictures of groups shot at 60 yards. I shot one group, moved the sight and shot another group.
This setup specs out at 28.25" arrow, 378 grains, 100 grain tip, 12.7% FOC, bow set at 62 lbs, 272 fps, 61.3 ft lbs of KE, and 6.1 grains/lb of bow weight. Do ya think they will work?
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Post by bowhunter44 on May 3, 2008 11:29:02 GMT -5
By the way, the Carbon Tech arrows are black...
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Post by BT on May 3, 2008 19:52:13 GMT -5
Glad you posted this. I have been saying that run out and spine are the most important thing when setting up high speed bows....for a very long time. I have had very educated people tell me that I am too anal.....I'll remember this pictorial the next time this comes up ;D
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Post by bowhunter44 on May 3, 2008 23:23:48 GMT -5
The story continues. I have three Razorsharks that I got on sale to try. Those broadheads on the 'other' arrow you see in the pics were a disaster. At fourty yards I had one arrow fly well, one almost miss the target to the right, and one totally miss the target to the left. I thought that the Razorsharks were gonners. Anyway, I got a few other heads, Phantoms, Stingers, and Rocky Mountain ti-100's to do some flight testing with. On the new arrows they all few like darts. In fact, I was so impressed that I got the two remaining Razorsharks (I still have to dig the 'total miss to the left' out of a post) and screwed them on. They also flewlike darts at all distances out to sixty yards! All of the heads were within shooting error of point of impact with my field tips! If I have had a more graphic demonstration of the difference between a good quality product and a not so good product, I don't remember it! I love those new arrows! Now I have a problem. Which broadhead to choose!
I will let you know how the Razorshark turns out that I dig out of the post. It is burried there in a country mile!
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Post by royden on May 4, 2008 9:31:56 GMT -5
Did you call or e-mail for their spine-a-round the shaft data? Looked at the websites but didn't find anything besides back patting
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Post by bowhunter44 on May 4, 2008 9:43:11 GMT -5
Did you call or e-mail for their spine-a-round the shaft data? Looked at the websites but didn't find anything besides back patting Actually I did not ask for their 'spine-a-round' the shaft data specifically. I just asked for spine tolerance and/or spine consistency data in general. In the vast majority what I did get was the run-a-round! Engineering has that data - that line cracks me up. It is the classic dodge that virtually everyone on earth knows is an evasive namuver.
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Post by bowhunter44 on May 4, 2008 13:27:38 GMT -5
The story continues. In the naked light of day, all of the broadheads do not fly equally as well. As it turns out the Stingers and the Rocky Mountain Ti-100's consistantly group better at sixty yards than the RazorSharks and the Phantoms. On the other hand, that RazorShark that was in the post - man, was it ever in the post! I dug it out to find the it had sheared off one bleeder. Inspection of the head on my ArrowMate showed a deflection of about 12 thousandths. I checked it against a Shark that was 'intact' and it showed a deflection of about 12 thousandths. Apparently the RazorShark was, other than the loss of a bleeder, was none the worse for the wear! Impressive!! I also shot a Ti-100 through my cheesy broadhead target (and into the same crossmember on the fence - Murphy!). In trying to pull that head out I, instead, pulled my insert out. That head looked great. Upon inspection on my Arrowmate it showed a deflection of about 1.5 thousandths. Obvioulsy none the worse for the wear. Additionally, that most likely explains why the Stingers and the Ti-100's group better than the RazorSharks - they sit are more perepndicular with the insert. The arrow that shot the Ti-100 into the fence showed virtually NO deflection on the ever so handy ArrowMate. I'm still very impressed with the Carbon Tech arrows. But I thought it would only be fair to provide the 'real' information about how they preformed, as opposed to the euphoric info. from yesterday.
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Post by BT on May 4, 2008 13:55:55 GMT -5
Excellent ! Thanks alot for this continued informative look into what really happens out there. Pictures are not only the best way to back up what you say....they end many potential arguments before they get started. Great job and thanks
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Post by bowhunter44 on May 4, 2008 22:20:34 GMT -5
da nada!
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