APA Archery...

[Doegirl]

Anybody have or know about these bows? How reputable of a company they are? All I know is that the stats are impressive on these bows. AND they have a speed bow offered in my drawlength! www.apaarchery.com/bows_mambax.html

[BT]

No personal first hand knowledge but people I do know and have heard from say they do like them.
I haven't heard any news of them recently which is a bit unnerving as a potential buyer
There are bows that can attain the same (or close to the same) speeds that you may want to consider as far as company strength goes.
One that jumps to mind is the Iron Mace by High Country

[Doegirl]

admin said:

No personal first hand knowledge but people I do know and have heard from say they do like them.
I haven't heard any news of them recently which is a bit unnerving as a potential buyer
There are bows that can attain the same (or close to the same) speeds that you may want to consider as far as company strength goes.
One that jumps to mind is the Iron Mace by High Country

Not offered in my drawlength(25")

[BT]

Not offered in my drawlength(25")

damn!
I didn't forget your draw length...I forgot that manufacturers don't seem to care
Let me look around.
The idea of going top performance is a good idea in order to recoup what is lost to that 25"

[BT]

Parker Hornet 2 + : 25" - 4.1# - 330fps - 50-70#- $639. Brace 6.6

Martin Slayer X Mag: 25" - 4.5# - 335fps - 50-70#- $699. Brace 6.5

Darton Pro 3000 : 25" - 4.6# - 332fps - 40-70#- $739. Brace 6.2

Hoyt Vulcan : 24 - 4.4# - 325fps - 40-80#- $739. Brace 6.0

What I like about the 40# minimum bows is that you are going to be able to order them at 40# and shoot them close to bottomed out.
Most bows (most all bows) are designed to be at peak performance with he limbs bottomed out.
The Darton Pro offers 6.25 Brace which is normal for a speed bow.
Your choices are limited but far from very limited

The Hoyt is a bit less on the Brace but is a very comfortable bow.

The Martin is again....a very comfortable bow and is more on the norm for mass shooter style compared to the Hoyt which requires you to shoot it as the bow is designed.
(for most....this isn't a real issue )

The Parker I would be a little wary of but not very wary

[Doegirl]

admin said:

Parker Hornet 2 + : 25" - 4.1# - 330fps - 50-70#- $639. Brace 6.6

Martin Slayer X Mag: 25" - 4.5# - 335fps - 50-70#- $699. Brace 6.5

Darton Pro 3000 : 25" - 4.6# - 332fps - 40-70#- $739. Brace 6.2

Hoyt Vulcan : 24 - 4.4# - 325fps - 40-80#- $739. Brace 6.0

What I like about the 40# minimum bows is that you are going to be able to order them at 40# and shoot them close to bottomed out.
Most bows (most all bows) are designed to be at peak performance with he limbs bottomed out.
The Darton Pro offers 6.25 Brace which is normal for a speed bow.
Your choices are limited but far from very limited

The Hoyt is a bit less on the Brace but is a very comfortable bow.

The Martin is again....a very comfortable bow and is more on the norm for mass shooter style compared to the Hoyt which requires you to shoot it as the bow is designed.
(for most....this isn't a real issue )

The Parker I would be a little wary of but not very wary

You're right about the 40-50lb limbs. With hard cams, I'm limited to 50# or a smidge above. Softer cams mid to high 50's but what's the point? I do like Hoyts alot. Thank you very much for the detective work

[BT]

Your welcome.
I am anticipating that your IBO would be 255fps with the Hoyt @ 25"
That's not a great big jump from where you are now if I remember correctly.
But....(if I am correct) that's a 20fps gain and that means a 3" smaller sight window and 3 yards x-tra for flat flight trajectory.
That's a good start but that's also IBO.

I am wondering what you would actually be specing with your current bow if you were to get rid of the X-tra weight on the arrow and bring it to IBO spec.
Again....if I am remembering correctly....you have 90 grains currently over spec.
I understand that you cannot hit IBO spec due to weight/arrow considerations but....you can shave a significant amount.....perhaps as much as 75 grains.
That would add somewhere in the range of 10-11 fps right there

With all of this considered....your bow is smoking right now! ;D
I must be remembering things incorrectly....yes?

[Doegirl]

According to my Bowtech's birth certificate, 51lb-26"(sent w/the wrong modules)-IBO speed 286fps. I suspect I could hit 270-276 IBO @ 25". That Hoyt's kinda slow ;D

[bigcountry]

trilby69 said:

Anybody have or know about these bows? How reputable of a company they are? All I know is that the stats are impressive on these bows. AND they have a speed bow offered in my drawlength! www.apaarchery.com/bows_mambax.html

APA Innovations Inc has released their 2008 line-up! The Black Mamba X1 and X2 returns with an updated riser and even more speed than last year, 355 and 342 fps respectively. There is also a new Mamba, the Black mamba XL. Built for the competition archer, this baby is 37 1/2" long and has 8" of brace height and produces 328 fps. For single cam lovers there is the Viper, a short compact power house with absolutely no hand shock or vibration, with 318 fps. The Boa is the fastest single cam APA has ever produced at 328 fps and 6 3/4" brace height. And finally the Python X is an updated version of last years Python with more brace height, greater axle length and very respectable speeds of 315 fps.

The APA web site will be updated later this month, but in the mean time you can call 1-866-353-7378 and get all the info you need.
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[snoodslapper]

trilby69 said:

admin said:

No personal first hand knowledge but people I do know and have heard from say they do like them.
I haven't heard any news of them recently which is a bit unnerving as a potential buyer
There are bows that can attain the same (or close to the same) speeds that you may want to consider as far as company strength goes.
One that jumps to mind is the Iron Mace by High Country

Not offered in my drawlength(25")

trilby69, If you like the Hoyt cams, I also suggest you take a look at the Darton Pro200 too, in addition to the 3000 BT suggested, at dartonarchery.com. It is no slouch either.

All of their bows, except the Pro5000, will go down to at least 25 inches, they have the draw weights you want, and the two suggested bows have speeds comparable to those others that BT has listed as well. They all have generous brace heights too. Just another option. I don't have a dealer around here, but I ordered one online for my wife (Ranger III) and I was very impressed with the build quality, the increadible ease of setup, and their customer service when I called with a question or two.