Fred Bear Bows Imported?

[BT]

I like the sentiment and I see nothing wrong at all with such an observance and noted statement in the form of a thread.

Your a member....you want a thread that pertains to what you see as important , by all means do.

One thing that I would like to point out is that when you buy any archery piece from any shop....you are supporting an american.....reguardless of where the product came from

Dealing with Company's that are based in the US and have no shareholders is also a way of supporting American workers....reguardless of where the product comes from.

One of our Sponsors (Keystone) is one such shop

[vonottoexperience]

"I fault the lazy bastards that have no pride in their work anymore". I don't know about YOU but I bust my a%# @ work. "a big city where mfg reigns supreme, but for those that are, I'm sure you'll agree"...I live near a big city and I don't agree I buy from whom and what I like, If I can buy American I will...If I don't like the product I'll go else were. To use sweeping statements like lazy, no pride, fat cats...etc is insulting to all American workers .

[shaman]

This might rattle some cages but....
Unions were created to protect worker rights, like; reasonable work hours, reasonable wage, and worker safety.

At some point it morphed into racketeering and intimidation and resulted in; incredible amounts of vacation/sick time/benefits, unreasonable wage, and litigation bases OSHA requirements.

American manufacturing has costed itself out of competition.
Toyota has an american plant in the same state and geographic area as a domestic plant.
Their production cost are 3/4, their quality is better, and buyers spend more to buy it.
The Toyota plant meets all US standards for safety and labor laws.
The difference is that they are not unionized and people compete for their salary.
It creates an atmosphere of work performance instead of work assurance.

Anyone see the 60 minutes a few years ago where the 50year old lady got paid $70/hr!!! to turn TVs on and off manually as quality assurance in a plant? GE offered to buy out her retirement and pay for ANY education she wanted to get her off the line and go with a more efficient solution. They could not fire her, and she chose not to leave.

Until the system corrects itself and the US can competitively manufacture under its own flag, foreign countries will continue to lead production and sales. Ironically that foreign country may even be building their goods on our soil, but with a different corporate and manufacturing structure.

[BT]

Shaman nails it for some company's that have to pass on costs but there are alot of non-union area's that have manufacturing cost problems without unions

That being said....

Lets not turn this into a political issue please.

[shaman]

admin said:

Lets not turn this into a political issue please.

I was not writing from an anti-union perspective.
I am represented by a union myself, though not currently an active member. More commenting on a system that makes doing what we want (buy American) more and more difficult.

[BT]

HAHAHA........I was just saying that in a general sense

we don't want to get further off topic by considering the pro's and con's of supply side economics.

This started off as a BEAR GOES OVER SEAS thread ..... not a slam all manufacturers and everyone who works for them thread ~ LMAO!

[michihunter]

vonottoexperience said:

"I fault the lazy bastards that have no pride in their work anymore". I don't know about YOU but I bust my a%# @ work. "a big city where mfg reigns supreme, but for those that are, I'm sure you'll agree"...I live near a big city and I don't agree I buy from whom and what I like, If I can buy American I will...If I don't like the product I'll go else were. To use sweeping statements like lazy, no pride, fat cats...etc is insulting to all American workers .

Vonotto- I'm from Detroit. I SEE firsthand what the MAJORITY of the workers do on a daily basis. I'm continuously in shops across the metro area. EVERY SINGLE DAY!!. Trust me when I tell you this, YOU are the exception to the rule.

[BT]

This is common......everyone has first hand experience but their experience is limited to what they have seen.

I have seen just what Michi refers to and also what Votto refers to.

I have not seen an overwhelming effort from anyone anywhere (as a whole) inside these borders in comparison to many third world country's of which I have read.

Compared to my grandfather.... who would suggest that he had it to easy in comparison to his family , we have it very easy indeed.

[SPIKER]

AAAAAHAHHHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! God Bless America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BT]

spiker said:

AAAAAHAHHHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! God Bless America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

right!