Pretty disturbing

[BT]

For my part , I think it is easy to do so....( think inside the box , as to self ) because thats how you see things typically.
That was a good way to express the thought MT ....

[huntbunny6]

I agree..That was absolutely brilliant MT

[nodog]

wapitifever said:

Thats not what I was getting at nodog, you opened a can o'worms for yourself .
Pesonally I think all PEOPLE are driven by their emotions, Some handle it better then others, Male or Female....Honestly I think the problem lies with a few emotional people who have the money and drive to make a change.Lining the Pockets of the correct (greedy)politicans will get you alot of things in this country,which IMO is where these sorts of problems develope.

Meanwhile the rest of us sit on our duffs whining about it, instead of taking action.Personally I'm sick of my voice not being heard on these matters and am in the process of finding ways to make it heard more clearly....BUT I have little money, and in this arena money talks the most.A SAD FACT.

Thats all I gotta say for now,
Ster

I didn't open it, I just looked and said, hey, a can of worms.

Anyone who cares to can study the subject As far as federal politics you can start with the speaker of the house and see what she has deemed important.

You can get emotional or look at it scientifically.

Point is emotions should never be the reason a law is passed. Freedom should be the litmas test. How often do you ever here it discussed? It is given away at a rapid rate often bassed soley on emotion. What's the talk about guns these past few days? Speaking of another woman since we're on the subject how about the Brady woman. She sacrificed freedom for saftey, where's the saftey. Freedom took another hit.

Wolves are protected and the saftey of people, the freedom to protect what is there's is not.

[nodog]

mtshooter said:

Lets look at the facts, our country has been and still is predominately male run and look where we are at.

SMJ was right on the money. How many of our male Political Figures have been found with their hands in the wrong "cookie jar" compared to their female counterparts? Women do tend to be more emotional and will think things through where as men tend to think "in the moment" and therefore immediate gain in their favor is all that is important.

There are good and bad on both sides but to blame women is purely chauvinistic, and shows that again someone did not think things through before he stuck his foot in his mouth >:

I didn't reread my comments buy I think my coments included men, I think I even said most men.

No foot and mouth desease here. Why the name calling? ;D

Colorado has quit a few women in their legislature. What are they doing? What's the numbers in Ill.? Speaking of gun laws.

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Point is emotions should never be the reason a law is passed. Freedom should be the litmas test. How often do you ever here it discussed? It is given away at a rapid rate often bassed soley on emotion. What's the talk about guns these past few days? Speaking of another woman since we're on the subject how about the Brady woman. She sacrificed freedom for saftey, where's the saftey. Freedom took another hit.

Wolves are protected and the saftey of people, the freedom to protect what is there's is not. [/quote]

Agreed, the thing is you're making it sound as if 99.9% of these problems stem from women in politics.
There are men out there that are no doubt worse than many women.....Example;You bring up guns, Ever heard of Michael Bloomburg???The Mayor of New York City??This is ONE prime example of a MAN in politics Who is desperatly trying to trample on our second amendment rights,Do some looking into what this creep has been up to,Luckily the Supreme Court put their foot down and stopped his shady anti-gun tactics...at least for now.

My point is athough I can't tell you how many from each sex, are trying to take our rights, There are many of both genders , and we gotta fight back.Alienating the women that appreciate our sports,our way of life, our freedom..is a step in the wrong direction IMO.
Ster

[nodog]

Yep and they often use the emotional trigger to get it done. Emotions are being used more and more and it coincides with the number of women coming into politics.

As far as New york, I don't think you should go down that state road in this debate.

I could start on the men, but the comment about emotions being used isn't their deal, money would be good with us, power, greed, coruption, manipulation just to name a few.

[mtshooter]

nodog said:

wapitifever said:

Just goes to show what happens when human emotion is allowed to take pecedence over science in wildlife management.

The direct result of women in politics. I'm not saying men are great and most men these days are half woman, ruled by emotion, what I am saying is there's plenty of evidence that when women control a gorvenmental body, emotion is what decides a law. Freedom should decide a law not emotion. Emotion gives away the very freedom that protects us all. A man can take a bitter pill because he knows it's best, a woman would rather spare us the suffering. God bless'm.

One of the reasons I don't understand the love of wolves.

I'm also not saying this about any particular woman or party, just women.

nodog said:

I didn't reread my comments buy I think my coments included men, I think I even said most men.

No foot and mouth desease here. Why the name calling? ;D

Colorado has quit a few women in their legislature. What are they doing? What's the numbers in Ill.? Speaking of gun laws.

I'm not name calling ;D I was pointing out the way your statement was taken by several And I actually read it several times before I started to reply and then a few more times before I hit post, and it still sounded the same and as I read it now Nope still sounds the same.

Is our country ready for a Women President possibly. Is there a women in politics now that is ready to be President IMO No.

These Laws don't pass by themselves regardless of who proposes them and it is both sexes voting but the males still have the majority.

With that said, this can also be tied to a post that BT made Observation of Women Pro Staff. It is the perception of most men that women do not want to be involved in the hunting world. How many here include their wives, girlfriends, daughters, granddaughters, or nieces hunting with them. I hope that most here do, but this forum is not the majority. We hunters need to have more capable and competent women in the media, showing the rest that hunting is not just a mans sport. We need to drop the "good ole boy" attitude and include all in our sport, men, women and children.

Sitting here on a computer pointing fingers at the opposite sexes is not going to change things and nothing is going to get done to change the way things are headed. It is going to take all of us Banding together and fighting back to save our rights and to put a stop to the madness.

[BT]

I'll start splitting some more wood

[mtshooter]

;D ;D

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mtshooter said:

nodog said:

The direct result of women in politics. I'm not saying men are great and most men these days are half woman, ruled by emotion, what I am saying is there's plenty of evidence that when women control a gorvenmental body, emotion is what decides a law. Freedom should decide a law not emotion. Emotion gives away the very freedom that protects us all. A man can take a bitter pill because he knows it's best, a woman would rather spare us the suffering. God bless'm.

One of the reasons I don't understand the love of wolves.

I'm also not saying this about any particular woman or party, just women.

nodog said:

I didn't reread my comments buy I think my coments included men, I think I even said most men.

No foot and mouth desease here. Why the name calling? ;D

Colorado has quit a few women in their legislature. What are they doing? What's the numbers in Ill.? Speaking of gun laws.

I'm not name calling ;D I was pointing out the way your statement was taken by several And I actually read it several times before I started to reply and then a few more times before I hit post, and it still sounded the same and as I read it now Nope still sounds the same.

Is our country ready for a Women President possibly. Is there a women in politics now that is ready to be President IMO No.

These Laws don't pass by themselves regardless of who proposes them and it is both sexes voting but the males still have the majority.

With that said, this can also be tied to a post that BT made Observation of Women Pro Staff. It is the perception of most men that women do not want to be involved in the hunting world. How many here include their wives, girlfriends, daughters, granddaughters, or nieces hunting with them. I hope that most here do, but this forum is not the majority. We hunters need to have more capable and competent women in the media, showing the rest that hunting is not just a mans sport. We need to drop the "good ole boy" attitude and include all in our sport, men, women and children.

Sitting here on a computer pointing fingers at the opposite sexes is not going to change things and nothing is going to get done to change the way things are headed. It is going to take all of us Banding together and fighting back to save our rights and to put a stop to the madness.

Great post mtshooter, Thats what I was trying to get at, although you're just more eloquent than I.
I'm going to shut up now ,
Ster