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Post by red on Sept 7, 2010 11:45:35 GMT -5
I voted, along with an overwhelming 72% of others, for the compound. For several reasons, primarily because I enjoy it the most. I have no fear of crossbows, however, and I'll tell you why. Without a solid rest, which I won't have in a treestand, I am much more accurate with my compound than my crossbow. The crossbow is a bulky, short-range weapon. I encourage anyone who thinks they have formed an opinion on one to give it a try. I'll be taking mine out with my 12-year-old and that's about it. Given its limitations, I wouldn't be concerned about others using it during archery season...I don't think it will have any significant impact on the harvest results. Spiker, I respect your strong opinion on this subject, but I am going to suggest climbing a tree and shooting one off-hand and I believe you'll agree that given a choice you'd much rather have your compound with you.
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Post by SPIKER on Sept 7, 2010 18:14:55 GMT -5
Oh, no doubt about it Red. I have no reason to shoot one, I know the disadvantages.
My point has always, and will always be, that when rifle hunters get their hands on them..rifle hunters that don't know anything about them other than they will get to hunt in the bow season with them..the bow woods will get a little more dangerous.
Maybe it would be a good idea to allow them into the rifle/muzzleloader season for a few years, and then allow them into the bowseason. This way all the yahoos that thought it was an easy score will be discouraged, and the guys that really like the weapon will continue.
An archer knows that you have to pick a spot. A spot that will take your game down as quickly, and humanely as possible.
A slug gunner is looking to hit a deer anywhere he can to take it down. Rifle guys tend to be a little impulsive as well.
But, hey...whatever happens, happens...I don't make the laws, I just follow them...
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Post by vixenmaster on Sept 8, 2010 7:12:30 GMT -5
Well i have a diff opinion & it wouldn't hurt my feeling if'en they stopped rifle-pistol-shotguns seasons fer a few yrs. I prefer my CB to any other followed by my ML. My friend Tom from Pa. comes down to deer hunt on my place & he hunts with his rifle i hunt with my CB. He got a deer & i did also & our stands were less than 250 yds apart!
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Post by SPIKER on Sept 8, 2010 13:13:20 GMT -5
Well i have a diff opinion & it wouldn't hurt my feeling if'en they stopped rifle-pistol-shotguns seasons fer a few yrs. I prefer my CB to any other followed by my ML. My friend Tom from Pa. comes down to deer hunt on my place & he hunts with his rifle i hunt with my CB. He got a deer & i did also & our stands were less than 250 yds apart! Well, we can agree on that! I'm all for stopping rifle, pistol, shotgun!  For a few years at least...  |
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Post by red on Sept 8, 2010 15:25:15 GMT -5
Oh, no doubt about it Red. I have no reason to shoot one, I know the disadvantages. My point has always, and will always be, that when rifle hunters get their hands on them..rifle hunters that don't know anything about them other than they will get to hunt in the bow season with them..the bow woods will get a little more dangerous. Maybe it would be a good idea to allow them into the rifle/muzzleloader season for a few years, and then allow them into the bowseason. This way all the yahoos that thought it was an easy score will be discouraged, and the guys that really like the weapon will continue.An archer knows that you have to pick a spot. A spot that will take your game down as quickly, and humanely as possible. A slug gunner is looking to hit a deer anywhere he can to take it down. Rifle guys tend to be a little impulsive as well. But, hey...whatever happens, happens...I don't make the laws, I just follow them... Well, since we are buds we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this issue. Your poll on the AT forum only tells me one thing. The great majority of folks dedicated to archery are going to stick with their archery gear. The very small number who would choose to switch to firearms are primarily doing it for only one stated reason...because they need to fill freezers to feed their families and need the greatest possible chance for success. A scoped rifle is not a "perceived" advantage. It is a definite and certain advantage. Anyone who says it is not is just deceiving themselves. My longest successful shot with a bow: 42 yards on a Texas whitetail. My longest successful shot with a rifle (.300 Weatherby out of an Accumark) was certified by a range finder at 497 yards on a Sitka Blacktail.  A couple of other points. I'll concede that you may have had experience with a different kind of rifle hunter than myself. I hunt with my 3 cousins that live and breathe hunting 365 days a year. 2 live in PA, the other lives in Alaska. 2 of the 3 were Eagle Scouts, the other back-packed his way to Alaska in 1977, built his own cabin from scratch and has had the most dangerous job in the world (commercial fisherman) since that time. He has hunted Kodiak Island on extensive stays 13 times. They are rifle hunters and have seen and taken more game than both of us combined. I'd trust them all with my life. In fact, most of the guys I've hunted with are similar. I suppose there are guys that do go to the woods and just sling lead, I haven't had any personal experience with them. As to the woods being a more dangerous place because of crossbows...still trying to understand how that is so. A deer must be at about 40 yards or inside that distance. Where does the danger come from? For a crossbow hunter to be successful, they must operate the same as someone shooting a longbow, recurve or compound...that is spending time like I have for the last 3 months scouting, setting stands, cutting shooting lanes, etc. Let the guys that are lazy spend 500 to 1000 dollars on crossbow set-ups, its great for the economy.  After their first year they will realize that they are no more successful with a crossbow because they haven't put in the time. Those crossbows will find themselves collecting dust in subsequent seasons. The guys that have taken the time and are successful I will welcome back into the woods at the same time as me because I know that the crossbow advantage really is mostly a "perceived" advantage. |
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Post by SPIKER on Sept 9, 2010 12:23:16 GMT -5
Hey, that looks like a great trip there Red...  |
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Post by vixenmaster on Sept 10, 2010 7:14:16 GMT -5
I would love to go hunt Prince of Wales Island fer those Blk.tails with my CB & do some fishing up there also.
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Post by 2chucks2 on Sept 20, 2010 11:56:18 GMT -5
This is what a 32# bow and a ten year old little girl can do. And yet, we hear that people are excluded from bowhunting. Your only excluded if you choose to be. www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1316604If you follow Archery Talk and a few other sites you will get a chance to read the interesting and compelling writings of Rancid Crabtree. Well spoken and makes perfect points that disarms even the most pro-crossbow person. |
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Post by Cossack on Sept 20, 2010 16:25:55 GMT -5
Oh to only pull a legal bow any more (40 lbs here), unfortunately both arms have been surgically altered, same with my back-twice-not to mention both wrists. Shake a bit too, at 70 and been rode hard, put away wet too many times. Guess I'm gonna hafta just TRY harder. Sure is one happy youngun tho. Used to read Rancid's drivel, finally realized he's got a closed mind and is only happy when he upsets folks; the kind of person who talks AT folks not with them. He's entitled to his opinion, much as I'm entitled not to read it. |
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After their first year they will realize that they are no more successful with a crossbow because they haven't put in the time. Those crossbows will find themselves collecting dust in subsequent seasons. The guys that have taken the time and are successful I will welcome back into the woods at the same time as me because I know that the crossbow advantage really is mostly a "perceived" advantage. 