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Post by BT on Mar 15, 2008 7:51:03 GMT -5
I don't hunt with float but I did for a year. I used expandables and kept my shots at 30 yards or better. At that distance I am well out of the area of float and the arrow is stabilized. By the way....I modified the previous statement with additional information so you may want to read it again for float tuning.
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Post by snoodslapper on Mar 15, 2008 9:00:19 GMT -5
I believe that most people do not use four fletch simply because most people don't. Really!.....look around and see how much everyones bow looks alike depending on the area in which they live. People are pretty much like lemmings and will follow what works for the person that shoots better than them. It doesn't occur (I love this term) to think outside of the box and investigate alternatives. I find myself doing the same thing at times but not often I totally agree. I tried 60/120 4 fletch with my longbow this year and found it worked better than anything else! And like you say, you don't have to worry about finding your cock vane on the stand or in the blind if you have to nock an arrow quickly with 4 fletch.
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Post by nodog on Mar 15, 2008 9:09:07 GMT -5
Good bit of info and I'll have to copy/paste it and read it thoroughly. Until then, I just made some shafts up with 3 4" gateway feathers and 3 4" duravanes. What would I see if I made up one with 4 4" feathers over the 3 set? Both were in a red except for one white.
I read earlier that C. Adams prefers this color and mentioned that it could be seen just as well. I shot them into a deer/brown target. I could see them just about as well and my eyes are not so good either. I was surprised to see the feathers weigh in at 9grns total. Those bases are healthy, makes them easy to glue. The feathers themselves were stiffer than all the others I've ever tried. I know there's a lot of variables, but take a guess. I'm guessing I can screw up a shot and it will not be as bad if I'm catching your drift.
As far as the sheep thing I think most are made that way because they work best for a majority of shooters, the most forgiving you could say.
Hey Harvey
I mention that the raz were stiffer to another guy, he still claims they aren't. Anyway to test them? I wonder if you can't suspend them between something and add weight until they drop.
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Post by nodog on Mar 15, 2008 9:25:59 GMT -5
I've read some of it closer. Your saying a 4 fletch is just a bigger tail, is that riight? Like flying a kite.
It's going to get real boring, I'll try some things, thanks for the info.
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Post by BT on Mar 15, 2008 12:17:50 GMT -5
I've read some of it closer. Your saying a 4 fletch is just a bigger tail, is that Right? Like flying a kite. It's going to get real boring, I'll try some things, thanks for the info. Kind of Ideally , you are not increasing total length but rather increasing mass as it relates to height and coverage. By reducing length and adding mass as it relates to the x-tra feather , you are gaining mass in two area's. One area would be the 90 degree pattern as opposed to the 120 degree. Secondly would be the total height which would be 25% greater due to the x-tra feather/vane.....which ever you were using. The answer to forgiveness is yes....you could foul a shot and it would stay in line or closer to that line due to the fact that you are trapping the shaft in quarters as opposed to thirds. Add to that the forgiveness which is inherent in feathers due to their ability to conform to outside forces and you are far ahead of the curve in the event of a foul in form.
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Post by bambeklr on Mar 15, 2008 19:10:43 GMT -5
So bt, is there any advantage to using 4 blazers. I aways wondered why you used that 4 fletch system. Know I understand somewhat. *lol*
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Post by BT on Mar 15, 2008 19:14:47 GMT -5
Sure bambeklr.... If you are going to the 4 fletch while using blazers then you can increase your clearances by using the 1.5" rather than the 2" version
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Post by bambeklr on Mar 15, 2008 19:20:10 GMT -5
So what will it do for me. SOry to sound so stupid but I am not a bow tech just a deer hunter. *lol*
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Post by voodoofire1 on Mar 17, 2008 9:02:56 GMT -5
Hey , Where can I get some of these Rayzrs? I'd like to try them, my arrows fly perfectly with 3-3" feathers, like to go a little smaller though...................Thanks ,Steve
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Post by BT on Mar 17, 2008 9:40:36 GMT -5
So what will it do for me. SOry to sound so stupid but I am not a bow tech just a deer hunter. *lol* Besides adding clearance you will gain a more stable arrow flight when using the 1.5 in a 4 fletch pattern. That being said....you wont get the most out of a 4 fletch unless you use feathers. In total....when using plastic , you are probably better off (in the big picture) by limiting yourself to a 2 or 3 fletch pattern. I'm not trying to promote 4 fletch plastic....just pointing out potential advantages
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