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Post by BT on Dec 19, 2008 21:48:45 GMT -5
I am looking for some numbers here....to get an idea of what we are averaging.
Whats you bolt weight and/or overall bolt weight?
Whats your draw weight?
Whats the length of the power stroke? (draw length)
Whats the listed FPS and how was that rating done?
Whats the flat flight of your bolt?
Whats the drop between your first and second pin/dot?
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Post by horizontalhunter on Dec 20, 2008 9:18:24 GMT -5
Whats you bolt weight and/or overall bolt weight?
460g (Including the 125g broadhead). The state of Connecticut requires a minimum of 450g
Whats your draw weight?
200lb The poundage limit for the state of Connecticut.
Whats the length of the power stroke? (draw length)
15 1/2"
Whats the listed FPS and how was that rating done?
308fps from the data chart developed by a chrono. Each manufacturer publishes their own speeds (usually done with the minimum weight arrow) there is nothing like IBO for xbows
Whats the flat flight of your bolt?
IDK. I have a crossbow scope that has a "speed ring" you adjust so the cross hairs are at 20 yards and the other chevrons (dots) are at 10 yard increments
Whats the drop between your first and second pin/dot?
IDK. Every chevron (dot) is set to 10 yard increments by adjusting the "speed ring"
Bob
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Post by BT on Dec 20, 2008 11:24:13 GMT -5
Whats you bolt weight and/or overall bolt weight?460g (Including the 125g broadhead). The state of Connecticut requires a minimum of 450g Does this pertain to all archery equipment or just crossbow? Understood. That said....there should be some reference as to weight or the listing of speed would be subjective at best and misleading t least. Understood. What I am asking is what is the drop over that 10 yard range. My scope has the same dot system and it is perfect at 20 and then gets less and less accurate as yardage tracts out toward 40 yards. Your adjustable scope (I assume for trajectory based on speed) would be far better. |
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Post by horizontalhunter on Dec 20, 2008 12:09:29 GMT -5
Does this pertain to all archery equipment or just crossbow?
The 200lb max and 450g arrow minimum pertains only to the xbow.
Understood.
That said....there should be some reference as to weight or the listing of speed would be subjective at best and misleading t least.
I totally agree but it is the way it is. Tenpoint is probably the most realistic as they use a typical arrow weight.
Understood.
What I am asking is what is the drop over that 10 yard range.
I don't know as I have never measured it. Next time I am at the range (spring) I will check it an let you know.
An interesting side comment is that Connecticut has proposed hunting regulation changes that would extend the January season till the end of the month and allow the use of crossbows for all during the January season. Both pertain only to zones 11 and 12. The proposed regs were voted on last week and we should know the beginning of next year.
Bob
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Post by BT on Dec 20, 2008 16:49:21 GMT -5
An interesting side comment is that Connecticut has proposed hunting regulation changes that would extend the January season till the end of the month and allow the use of crossbows for all during the January season. Both pertain only to zones 11 and 12. The proposed regs were voted on last week and we should know the beginning of next year. Bob Awesome!! |
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Post by ghost on Dec 20, 2008 17:57:15 GMT -5
I am shooting an Excalibur Exocet 200: 20 inch Arrows with 100 grain BH are 443 grains Draw weight is 200 pounds Power stroke is 15.5 inches Manufacture listed speed is up to 330 PFS using a 350 grain arrow and a Flemish Dyna-Flight String. I am shooting 296 with my setup, which is the factory string and a 443 grain arrow. Arrow flat flight probably does not exist with a crossbow but for practical use it is in 10 yard increments I have a Vari-Zone Scope with “dots” for each ten yards up to 50 yards. If I sight the scope at 20 yards and then back up to 30 yards and shoot with the 20 yard sight position I think there is about a one inch drop. I will check when the cold and mud gives way to spring. ;D With the correct speed dialed into the scope and a good steady rest I can put an arrow in the center of a navel orange at 50 yards.  Ghost |
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Post by BT on Dec 20, 2008 19:36:51 GMT -5
With the crossbow, I would (personally) be more interested in the gap or difference in impact through the 10 yard drop.
My crossbow is 20 as well and I think everyone I have ever heard speak of their sighting has also referenced 20 as their starting sight pin/dot.
SO....to know what my real variable of yardage estimation would be (to make clean kills) would likely be better served by knowing the shot gap.
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Post by ghost on Dec 20, 2008 22:13:13 GMT -5
SO....to know what my real variable of yardage estimation would be (to make clean kills) would likely be better served by knowing the shot gap. That would depend on the draw weight of your xbow. To reduce that variable I bought the highest legal weight for Illinois, 200 pounds. I do not use mechanical BHs and will not take any shot that I could not make with a 50 pound vertical bow. When I started hunting with a crossbow I did not appreciate their limitations and I tried a 40 yard shot. Yes I killed the deer but because it moved I was not happy with the shot placement. Arrows take time to get to the target. Ghost |
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Post by ghost on Dec 20, 2008 22:37:13 GMT -5
My xbow has 86 lb of Kinetic Energy at the bow, but crossbow arrows lose speed fast down range. Has anyone placed a chrono at the target to see what the real Kinetic Energy is at 30, 40, and 50 yards?
I know a bad shot could get expensive but then bow hunters are made of money. ;D ;D
Ghost
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Post by BT on Dec 21, 2008 15:36:24 GMT -5
That would depend on the draw weight of your xbow. To reduce that variable I bought the highest legal weight for Illinois, 200 pounds. I do not use mechanical BHs and will not take any shot that I could not make with a 50 pound vertical bow. When I started hunting with a crossbow I did not appreciate their limitations and I tried a 40 yard shot. Yes I killed the deer but because it moved I was not happy with the shot placement. Arrows take time to get to the target. Ghost I'm glad that you mentioned the facts behind the crossbow's limitations. The vast majority of people who have not owned a crossbow do not appreciate the huge advantage that a traditional bow has over this type of bow. I know that with mine, I would not take a shot over 40 and as you say....that would have to be some kind of special situation. |
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