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Post by BT on Jan 16, 2007 22:38:50 GMT -5
So..... I am told about this thread over at AT in which a fellow from the mid west is saying that 100yrd. shots are the norm for some people in that region Now....I am not looking to stir a bee's nest here and I know that most people don't shoot 100 yards. BUT.... I know that everyone here can shoot out to 100 yards , even if not very well or even don't or havnt.....the fact is that anyone could. So therefore , anyone should be able to offer an opinion. With that being said....I would like to hear opinions as to any condition where a 100 yard poke would be ethical on a non spooked animal. As to perfect conditions....what is a perfect condition? I am not looking for anyone to back me on my position but rather to be honest and tell me theirs. I want to hear what , how and why and see some responses with some serious thought put into them if possible.
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Post by vonottoexperience on Jan 16, 2007 22:49:26 GMT -5
I never shot 100yrds..so I have no clue how to even go about it...what kind of KE will you have if the arrow finds it mark? and even if I could I theres no way in HELL I would do it. To me Archery is a close up and see the whites of there eyes type of hunt..you got within the deers defenses, sight, smell, hearing..there is none of this @ 100 yrds. it is just shooting..not hunting. You want to shoot a deer @ 100yrds by a rifle
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Post by Greg Krause on Jan 16, 2007 23:04:37 GMT -5
I wouldn't hesitate to take a 100yd shot..........................on a dead deer. that thread is stupid, it wasn't even 100yds, it was like between 100 and 150yds. it was stated that some people prefer shots at that range. Accuracy is not the problem, on a good day a prscticed archer could keep a reasonable group. they could at least assure their left/right was correct, even if the height varied a little. chances are it would be a kill or a miss..........on a stationary target. animals move. it takes a long time for an arrow to make it 100yds and to make matters worse it is almost impossible to read the body language from that distance. Reading body language is just as important as being able to shoot well, once the distance is over 40yds. I honestly don't think many people would consider a healthy deer at 100yds a shot opportunity........
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Post by michihunter on Jan 17, 2007 7:29:38 GMT -5
My thinking here is that not only is it possible, but with some animals almost necessary. Maybe not quite 100 yards, but far. Antelope comes to mind. Now take into consideration the 90m shooters that contuinually shoot bullseyes from that distance and the fact that there is no sound to be heard at 100 yards, I truly think this is doable. Of course, I personally wouldn't take the shot, but in the open plains where it may be necesssary and practiced, I don't see it as a problem for the individual archer that can accomplish the feat. Disclaimer would be "under great conditions" of course.
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Post by shaman on Jan 17, 2007 7:53:24 GMT -5
PSE shooter makes 80yd shot on Mulie with Mach X. He had no question about his ability and it shows on film. 80yds was within his effective range and he took it.
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Post by Greg Krause on Jan 17, 2007 10:40:41 GMT -5
I would never argue that it wasn't possible. look, I put a perfect shot on a deer at 78yds. I wouldn't argue that you couldn't do it with good consistancy. I will argue that you can always get closer to the animal then 100yds. I will argue that wounds happen anyway, at any distance and by shooting these ranges you are inviting a wound to happen earlier and more frequently. Most wounds happen due to a factor we did not see or couldn't control. Long shots leave more time and distance for one of these factors to pop up. I'll also argue that 100yds is a very long way. I like my shots closer than 60yds. If EVERYTHING was PERFECT I may push that to 65-70yds on an animal. this year I had set my limit at 60yds, because I had spent so much time with the recurve and not enough with the Trykon. There is a huge difference between 70yds and 100yds and over. Just think of the difference between 30yds and 50yds or 30 and 60yds. well now put that difference of 20-30yds way out there, it makes even a bigger difference.
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Post by SPIKER on Jan 17, 2007 12:45:00 GMT -5
My main concern would have to be crosswinds. There's no way to tell, other than grass swaying, or tree limbs blowing, which way the winds blowing out at a hundred yards. Maybe in some circumstances, but definitley not all. I shoot in heavy crosswind regularly because of the way my property sits in relation to my shooting lane, and at 35yds and up, there is a noticable difference in arrow drift. So, if the arrow is more succeptable to drift at 35yds, how much effect would there be at a hundred? I don't think I would consider this an acceptable risk. Just my .02 I will however shoot a few 100yd. rounds this weekend and post the results, if I can even find the arrows!
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Post by Coca Cola on Jan 17, 2007 13:53:44 GMT -5
no, I Wouldnt. Unless I had already put an arrow in the deer. Todays bows are efficiant, but I dont think its fair to the animal. I think they have as good a chance as hitting the legs and gut as the lungs. I mean at that distance for the AVERAGE hunter its unrealistic to expect to put your arrow in the vitals 80%. Even for an experienced archer that is quite rediculous
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Post by akdd on Jan 17, 2007 18:38:24 GMT -5
I know that I would not take a 100 yd shot but I am sure that there are people that are capable of being accurate at that distance. I feel like a big part of bowhunting is the challange of getting up close to the game. If you want to shoot 100 yards at game you should be hunting with a rifle.
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Post by tedicast on Jan 17, 2007 19:09:45 GMT -5
Well, everyone that knows me, knows where I stand on this. There is absolutely no situation, where anyone should ever take a 100 yard shot on a healthy animal! Not only is it unethical. It is stupid. It defeats the whole purpose of bowhunting...getting your prey close. Sorry if I ruffled anyones feathers with my thoughts, but thats just how I feel about it.
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