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Post by BT on Jan 5, 2007 22:07:10 GMT -5
True but the majority of bowhunter (I would hazard to guess) do not have or use range finders.
Even if you have a range finder.....you may not be able to use it if you walk up on a deer while headed to or from your stand.
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Post by BT on Jan 5, 2007 22:09:29 GMT -5
It will always boil down to a personal preference regardless of arguments pro or con. Well that may be .....but personal preference can be determined by guidance I do believe that there is a place for multi pin as well as the single pin but I also believe that there are times when area's do not dictate the use of both but rather one alone.
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Post by elk4me on Jan 5, 2007 22:26:05 GMT -5
Well I use a 5 pin site set in 10 yrd incriments I cant sit there and judge up and down on a pin when I got a deer or Elk coming in I have to range it and shoot. I like the 10 yrd incriments and it works for me but it might not work for you!. I thought about a slider site for this but decided against it cuz in Elk huntin you dont have time to change the elevation quick. This is just MHO and I will stick with what works for me!
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Post by Scottyluck on Jan 5, 2007 22:32:43 GMT -5
True but the majority of bowhunter (I would hazard to guess) do not have or use range finders. Even if you have a range finder.....you may not be able to use it if you walk up on a deer while headed to or from your stand. Ahhh...a different can O' worms. I know my first pin hits dead nuts at 30yds. I can do a quick judge of 30-35yds from the ground. If I'm off a little I'm still hitting the sweet spot. But that's on the ground. Now from a tree is a different ballgame. Throw in the height and the angle and your kill zone shrinks meaning yardage estimation needs to be more precise. Which is why I ALWAYS range objects everywhere around my stand while on stand. Still, for me, I don't get shop ops over 35yds very often in the terrain I hunt so I'm narrowed down to 1 pin anyway. Wait...what the hell am I talking about!!! Oh yeah, I use mostly 1 pin for hunting and 3 for 3-D or target shooting. I think I brained my damage!
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Post by BT on Jan 5, 2007 22:57:19 GMT -5
LOL!.......Thats great scottyL For instance....two people here have already told of area's which dictate different sights (kinda;)) Scottyluck for instance is close to (although maybe not perfectly) an example of someone who would have no use for multiple pins whereas elk4me certainly does need multiple pins. Elk4me could find himself looking at a 60 yards shot whereas scottyluck will likely not be shooting past 35yrds. Back home in Maine , most area's are 1 pin area's with shots closer to 15-20yrds. due to the heavy cover and the deers tendency to stay in that cover. Multiple pins would serve no purpose in these close area's and would have the potential to cause problems as was the case with vonottoexsperience.
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Post by Greg Krause on Jan 5, 2007 23:58:23 GMT -5
on the same theory, someone who limits there shots to say 30-35yds, reguardless of terrain, would have no reason for more than 1 pin. I shot 1 pin for years and didn't think I'd change. I actually prefer having the one pin and being proficient with it, when I don't know the range. I had the same success ratio I have now and never had a range finder. With an unknown range I sometimes feel that I force myself to use a pin or just sort of guess which one to use. the single pin just always went where it needed to. Now that I have a rangefinder and use many of the same stands, I know the ranges and love the multi pins. I now usually limit myself to 35yds or less if I don't know the range. That way I just use my first pin dead on or a bit high.
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Post by Greg Krause on Jan 6, 2007 0:25:30 GMT -5
there is really only one reason for multi pin then. More proficient at longer ranges, whatever the scenario may be. As stated, it's all about personal preferance and what you intend to do.
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Post by Greg Krause on Jan 6, 2007 1:02:56 GMT -5
I think that is a valid point, but it's personal. as I said, it was easier for ME to use 1 pin on a deer of unkown range. That is not the case for most, but it was for me. It's hard to use the pins to tell the deers range in some cases. The deer here range from 80-250#'s and the terain is never level. I'm almost always shooting up or down. with those 2 things, it's hard to "bracket" a deer to get the range. I think enough practice at different ranges is the best way to go, reguardless of how many pins you use.
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Post by smj on Jan 6, 2007 9:30:07 GMT -5
I have never been any good at picking distance much over about 40 yards. I like to shoot distance, I use a range finder to tell me the distance. In hunting, I also use the range finder. Typically if I don't have time to range the shot, it is probably not the shot I should take anyway! A few obvious exceptions, of course. An animal walking up on you, or just very close. I know where the 20 yard pin puts my arrow. I will hold the 20 on high lung, see where the pins fall across the chest of the animal, and let that tell what range I can shoot and still get a hit. If I think the animal is farther away, then I range to be sure. If I think the animal is closer than that, I shoot it. Seems to work rather well. I also know that if the animal is farther than 40 yards, the pins start to line up to low to be of much use. Then it is time to do something else. I find it helpful at times. A single pin takes away all that. If you are good at telling your max range for flat flight, a single pin has to work great. Again, about the only difference I see with the single pin is you can't blame using the wrong pin for a mssed shot! And it makes longer shots less accurate.
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Post by BT on Jan 6, 2007 13:55:23 GMT -5
Want another reason for multi? You always have a spare available in case you break one. I like that one! I'll get back to other reasons for one pin. Right now I have to run
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